[mythtv] Feature Request

Robert Middleswarth robert at middleswarth.net
Tue Mar 4 18:25:52 EST 2003


Does Myth have genre info coming in thought XMLTV?  The Best I could 
think we could do is base it off the summarys for the shows.  Use a 
method like a  Naive Bayes to teach myth what you like and don't like.

Chris Martin (Dev) wrote:

>That's pretty cool...although I'm not sure if I'd want Myth to take up ALL of my available space - maybe a user definable size controlled in settings. 
>
>I'd be interested in implementing this, but I first need to understand a little more about how the "suggested" shows would be found (using the available program data). 
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>As I am (trying to) understand from the earlier posts, is that a rating of -3[very bad] to +3[very good], with 0 as "unrated" would be given to combinations of genres... 
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>Eg. (The Simpsons) Comedy, Animation = +3 rating
>    (Harvey Birdman) Comedy, Animation = +3 rating
>    (Knight Rider) Action, Drama = +1 rating
>    (Touched by an Angel) Drama = -3 rating
>
>So, the genre combo ratings would be:
>    Comedy, Animation = +6
>    Action, Drama = +1
>    Drama = -3
>
>Which makes sense that if it stumbled upon another Comedy, Animation show I'd want it to suggest it to me first. But what happens if a show just has a genre of "Comedy". Would genre combos modify singular genre values? What would occur in the Action, Drama and Drama only example? Or am I making this too complicated... Maybe at the start the suggestions are based on matching genre combinations, and later on we can figure out some better heuristics.
>
>BTW, I want a myth box that I can control with a voice controlled watch...and be mounted in a car so it can pick me up from work and rescue me from harsh situations. ;)
>
>-Chris Martin
>
>On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:15:10PM -0800, J.R. Hyde wrote:
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>>The tivo suggestion feature was originally based around just the genre
>>category that every shows info provided. So you would rate individual
>>shows with 1-3 thumbs, either up or down, and tivo would record
>>suggestions based on those genre's you gave thumbs up or thumbs down.
>>Shows usually belong to more than 1 genre (action, scifi, or animated,
>>children etc) so it worked reasonably well. TiVo has been enhancing the
>>suggestion features for awhile now so it uses aggregate data obtained
>>from everybody and it has gotten quite a bit better, at least for me.
>>For some people it got a lot worse according to reports on the
>>tivocommunity boards /shrug. 
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>>The big difference between how mythtv and tivo work is tivo doesn't
>>provide an available space indicator. The only way to know how much
>>space you have available on a TiVo is to leave suggestions on. The TiVo
>>will try and always be recording new suggestions and shows, as long as
>>it wasn't doing anything else of higher priority. So if you have a ton
>>of suggestions to watch, you know you have quite a bit of free space, if
>>you have zero suggestions then you are either out of freespace or darn
>>close. At first this sounded like a kludge to me, but in practice it
>>works wonderfully. I had no idea futurama was being broadcast again (I
>>don't watch commercials of course) but the tivo picked it up as a
>>suggestion which was a pleasant surprise. This and other things it has
>>caught have made me a fan of the suggestion system. 
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>>For mythtv to be able to handle suggestions, it would have to have some
>>kind of freespace limiter or management system on top of the suggestion
>>engine being added. Another neat thing about how tivo handles
>>suggestions is even if you turn off suggestions, you can still see what
>>it would have suggested to record at any time. 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: mythtv-dev-bounces at snowman.net
>>[mailto:mythtv-dev-bounces at snowman.net] On Behalf Of Chris Martin (Dev)
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:20 PM
>>To: Development of mythtv
>>Subject: Re: [mythtv] Feature Request
>>
>>Could you describe this functionality for us non-tivo folks... I'm
>>guessing that it's a rating system of some type, but for what purpose?
>>
>>-Chris Martin
>>
>>On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:31:45PM -0500, Joe Osowski wrote:
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>>>Has anyone started / is there already a feature in MythTV like the
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>>Thumbs Up
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>>>/ Down functionality of Tivo?
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