[mythtv] Channel changing Bugs...

[Robert Middleswarth]

Henk Poley wrote:

>>Van: Chris Palmer <mythtv at zencow.com>
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>>>Andrew M. Bishop wrote
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>>>>Chris Palmer <mythtv at zencow.com> writes:
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>>Are you saying that TV's in europe essentially use programmable
>>slots for stations?  Does that mean your "channel 5" could be
>>different than your neighbor's "channel 5" even on the same
>>cable system?  Am I understanding that?
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>Yes.
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>>>Forcing all MythTV users to use channum is counter-intuitive 
>>>to you... ;-)
>>>and a backward step to what MythTV was like in September before 
>>>Isaac added the chanid to the database.
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>>ok, I can see that this fundamental difference in systems 
>>(or more accurately, the lack of understanding in differences)
>>is making things awkward to design.
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>There are no real differences, you just need to map numbers to frequencies.
>btw, this system is also used by the local cable to put the channels closer
>to each other. channels take up slightly more than one 'whole freqency', so
>in America they'll need to put and 'empty' freqency in between (AFAIK). In
>Europe they use (video-)frequencies like 62+, being 1/4 freq. above 62.
>Which increases the density quite a bit.
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>I understand this can seem akward to you. To us it seems like the American
>system is wierd. I think if I emigrated to America I would see it as not
>having a choice... Guess I would buy a PAL/NTSC "dual" TV here and send it
>over ;-)
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>>If I am understanding the slots concept correctly, then I have
>>some ideas on how to clean this up nicely for everyone (if there
>>is, in fact, anything to do).  But I'll save that idea until I'm 
>>sure I'm understanding the european tv channel numbering (naming?)
>>system.
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>>Do you have HBO or Showtime there?  I don't personally get those,
>>but they might be a good common-ground for explaining the 
>>relationship between channel numbers, stations (call letters), 
>>and chanid's in your part of the world.  :)
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>HBO? Showtime? No..
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>They don't broadcast in The Netherlands, is it a (single) channel anyways?
>I heard about it sometimes on Slashdot. I'm not sure, can you explain?
>Digital TV?
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Simple description of Digital TV.  Digital TV boxes take Streamed MPG2 
and output either to RCA/SVideo/NTSC Channel 3 in the form of a settop box.

>btw, don't forget the 'more channels per freqency' problem (two, most of
>the time), please. I forgot to mention it in my previous mail. It used
>sometimes. For example here in Holland, "KinderNet" (..ChildrenNet..)
>broadcast only from 6am-12pm, so afternoon and in the evening "Net5" is put
>though on this frequency.
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>And no, "Net5" is not programmed at #5 ;-)
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>	Henk Poley <><
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