<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 11:49 AM Mike Perkins <<a href="mailto:mikep@randomtraveller.org.uk">mikep@randomtraveller.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 01/08/2023 11:35, James Abernathy wrote:<br>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 4:38 AM Mike Perkins <<a href="mailto:mikep@randomtraveller.org.uk" target="_blank">mikep@randomtraveller.org.uk</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> On 31/07/2023 23:29, James wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> On 1 Aug 2023, at 5:05 am, Ram Ramesh <<a href="mailto:rramesh2400@gmail.com" target="_blank">rramesh2400@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It appears that when I upgraded my frontend host from Debian bullseye<br>
>> to bookworm, my myth version changed from 0.31 to 0.33. Specifically,<br>
>> before upgrade it was:<br>
>>>>> MythTV Version : v31.0<br>
>>>>> MythTV Branch :<br>
>>>>> Network Protocol : 91<br>
>>>>> Library API : 31.20200101-1<br>
>>>>> QT Version : 5.11.3<br>
>>>> After upgrade it is:<br>
>>>>> MythTV Version : v33.1-525efb656d6<br>
>>>>> MythTV Branch : fixes/33<br>
>>>>> Network Protocol : 91<br>
>>>>> Library API : 33.20220913-1<br>
>>>>> QT Version : 5.15.8<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> This happened as I get my mythtv through debian-multimedia.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I need to go back to 0.31 as my backend is still 0.31 and I am<br>
>> reluctant to upgrade (the backend) at this time as it serves a couple of<br>
>> 0.31 frontends that I cannot upgrade at this time.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Is there anyway I can downgrade to 0.31 and still stay in bookworm?<br>
>> Otherwise, I will have to wipe clean and install bullseye and get myth<br>
>> 0.31. If possible, I would like to avoid this route. Please let me know if<br>
>> I have any solution.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I have never used repos for my mythtv setup so I can say following:<br>
>>> the wiki on build from source is quick and easy but you need to have the<br>
>> background skills eg setup the DB eg systemd<br>
>>><br>
>> The problem with building from source, if you are not a developer, is that<br>
>> it takes time to set that<br>
>> build system up the first time and become familiar with it. Then, by the<br>
>> time you come to do the<br>
>> next upgrade, you have forgotten how it all works and maybe the system has<br>
>> changed anyway.<br>
>><br>
>> For myth, uprgades/updates come sufficiently infrequently that the use of<br>
>> repos such as<br>
>> deb-multimedia are adequate for the purpose, even for someone like me who<br>
>> *is* a developer. 'apt<br>
>> update; apt upgrade' is quick and easy and keeps myth in step with the<br>
>> rest of the software.<br>
>><br>
>> The OP has also said that he has two frontends he cannot yet upgrade;<br>
>> building from source risks<br>
>> that, even though he selects the same myth version, something will not be<br>
>> compatible. Using the same<br>
>> repo on every myth host ensures that all systems are exactly in lockstep.<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>><br>
>> Mike Perkins<br>
>><br>
> <br>
> I put together a way to build the packages for Debian 12 for MythTV over on<br>
> the MythTV Forum.<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5466" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5466</a><br>
> <br>
That looks useful and is fairly well documented, thanks. I managed to get about a third of the way <br>
through the process when I tried to do it originally but found the debian documentation either too <br>
confusing or too vague or inapplicable.<br>
<br>
I run a VM with apt-cacher-ng on it so my circumstances are slightly different but I can see how to <br>
adapt your methods to that.<br>
<br>
I think one of the problems is that everyone's setup is different so using anyone's instructions can <br>
be confusing if you are unfamiliar with software development, building and deployment. Fortunately I <br>
am, though I haven't had to dive this deep for a while.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
Mike Perkins</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I like using posts in Mythtv Forum to document what I do. That way I can repeat 6 months from now when I've totally forgotten how I did it. Invariably any scripts or notes will have gotten lost in that time frame. The plus is that maybe someone else can benefit from it. I find the editing and formatting on the forum very easy compared to whatever arcane codes are used in wiki's. My 72 year old brain can deal with that crap. It's too much like Workperfect back on DOS.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim A</div><div><br></div></div></div>