<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Roland Ernst <<a href="mailto:rcrernst@gmail.com">rcrernst@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 7:04 PM James Abernathy <<a href="mailto:jfabernathy@gmail.com" target="_blank">jfabernathy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I was starting to build mythtv from source on Endeavour OS which is a Arch linux based distro.  It complied fine but the sudo make install failed due to new rules that are starting to creep into OSs.  It will affect Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Archlinux, etc very soon. It happened to me today on something that last week didn't cause a problem.<div><br></div><div>The error is related to installing pip packages. Here is a the console error I saw at the end of sudo make install:</div><div><br></div><div><br><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">

make[</span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">1</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">]: Entering directory </span><span style="font-style:italic;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">'/home/jim/build/mythtv/mythtv/bindings/python'</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">

python3 -m pip install   --no-build-isolation --no-cache-dir --no-index --disable-pip-version-check --no-deps --find-links ./dist MythTV

</span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">error:</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> externally-managed-environment

× This environment </span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">is</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> externally managed

╰─> </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">To</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> install Python packages system-wide, </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">try</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> </span><span style="font-style:italic;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">'pacman -S</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">

    python-xyz</span><span style="font-style:italic;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">', where xyz is the package you are trying to</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">

    install.

    </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">If</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> you wish </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">to</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> install a non-Arch-packaged Python package,

    create a virtual environment </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">using</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> </span><span style="font-style:italic;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">'python -m venv path/to/venv'.</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">

<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">Then<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> use path/<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">to<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">/venv/bin/python <span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">and<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> path/<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">to<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">/venv/bin/pip.

    </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">If</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> you wish </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">to</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> install a non-Arch packaged Python application,

    it may be easiest </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">to</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> use </span><span style="font-style:italic;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">'pipx install xyz', which will manage a</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">

    virtual environment </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">for</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> you. Make sure you have python-pipx

    installed via pacman.

</span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">note:</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">If</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> you believe this </span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">is</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> a mistake, please contact your Python installation </span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">or</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> OS distribution provider. You can override this, at the risk </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">of</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> breaking your Python installation </span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">or</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> OS, </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">by</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> passing --break-system-packages

<span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">hint:<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> See PEP <span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">668<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> <span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">for<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> the detailed specification.

make[</span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">1</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">]: *** [Makefile:</span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">35</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)">: install] </span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-weight:bold;font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">Error</span><span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(241,241,241)"> </span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap">1</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace;font-size:15.008px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;white-space:normal;background-color:rgb(247,247,247)">This link gives a better explanation of what’s going on: </span><a href="https://pythonspeed.com/articles/externally-managed-environment-pep-668/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc" style="background-color:rgb(247,247,247);text-decoration-line:none;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;white-space:normal" target="_blank">https://pythonspeed.com/articles/externally-managed-environment-pep-668/</a><br></span></div><div><br></div><div>So my question is, now what?</div><div><br></div><div>Jim A<br><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>See <a href="https://lists.archive.carbon60.com/mythtv/dev/643410" target="_blank">https://lists.archive.carbon60.com/mythtv/dev/643410</a><br>For advanced users compiling and installing MythTV from source, <br>do a "export PIP_BREAK_SYSTEM_PACKAGES=1" before the <br>installation of the local build. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Roland</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for that information. I'll give it a shot. The odd thing is I need it on EndeavourOS and not Archlinux, which EOS is built on.</div><div><br></div><div>JIm A</div><div>   </div></div></div>