<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 12:52 PM James Abernathy <<a href="mailto:jfabernathy@gmail.com" target="_blank">jfabernathy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 1:35 PM Gary Buhrmaster <<a href="mailto:gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com" target="_blank">gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 3:02 PM Greg Oliver <<a href="mailto:oliver.greg@gmail.com" target="_blank">oliver.greg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> All (most) home routers that run Linux (99% probably) LAN ports are already software bridged using the exact same commands I just outlined anyway :)<br>
<br>
Only the old(er)/cheap(er) ones. Most recent<br>
SoCs that are being used in consumer routers<br>
have internal switching capabilities that can be<br>
used along with hardware NAT support (a<br>
L2/L3/L4 multilayer design), in addition to<br>
integrated WiFi. And the reason for using<br>
these SoCs is, of course, money. A single<br>
SoC that integrates everything results in a<br>
cheaper/faster to engineer and certify solution.<br>
It also means when the SoC vendors S/RDK<br>
turns out to have a VULN it impacts a lot of<br>
devices from different vendors since they all<br>
used the same base. Qualcomm and<br>
Broadcom are some big manufactures of<br>
such SoCs.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So what are the brands and models of home WiFi AP /routers that are any good? I've tried Netgear and my current one is TP-Link with WiFi 6. I have about 50 devices connected to it either ethernet or WiFi. To get around some switching issues I have only one LAN port of my TP-Link feeding my bank of Gbe switches</div><div><br></div><div>Jim A<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default">As Stephen said previously, they all (most) do have an ethernet switch controller built into them. The kernel has recently started calling them DSA devices - used to have separate broadcom / qualcomm , etc devices using different provisioning methods (swconfig, et all).</div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default">Even though they have underlying switching chips, they still use the standard linux tools as well. If you get on the GPIO pins of these devices and get a console, you will always find that there is a bridge interface containing your LAN ports. If anyone ever runs 3rd party firmware (OpenWRT, dd-wrt, etc..), you will find that is always true - it is just the only way the linux kernel can bridge them - even though there is a switch chip also provisioned the same way. Any modern router within the last 10 years will be provisioned this way. I have a Netgear R7000 that I use for development which is very good (there are much newer models now though), but I use Ubiquiti for everything in the house - I have a Dream Machine Pro router with AC wifi APs mounted on the ceiling everywhere. It runs very well. Also their cameras are very cheap. Their 10GB switch as a main hub and 1GB switches everywhewre else. Their single controller gui (built into the dream machine pro) makes it all very easy to configure. Just my $.02<br></div></div></div>