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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/09/2021 19:48, Klaas de Waal
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at
              11:57, John <<a href="mailto:jksjdevelop@gmail.com"
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              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 06/09/2021 10:46,
              Stephen Worthington wrote:<br>
              > On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 07:01:01 +0100, you wrote:<br>
              ><br>
              >> On Sun, 5 Sept 2021 at 11:10, John <<a
                href="mailto:jksjdevelop@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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              wrote:<br>
              >><br>
              >>> I use 65692 which does work but the number
              may differ for you, test the SD<br>
              >>> channel you pick as source for the EIT of the
              HD channel.<br>
              >>><br>
              >> How can I tell which one it is? I see no clue
              from the query below as to<br>
              >> which of them is being used for EIT.<br>
              >><br>
              >> select
              serviceid,chanid,channum,sourceid,callsign,deleted,xmltvid
              from<br>
              >> channel where callsign like("%Channel 4%");<br>
              > [snip]<br>
              >> I also tried looking at all the existing column
              headings in "channel" (with<br>
              >> "select * from channel") but none suggested that
              a channel was being used<br>
              >> for EIT. Obviously that info must be in some
              other table. Would you know<br>
              >> which?<br>
              > The field you want is "useonairguide".<br>
              ><br>
              >>> I am testing the following to cope with the
              clocks changing.<br>
              >>><br>
              >>> I know its cringe worthy but might work, the
              two versions of crosseit have<br>
              >>> the single line change.<br>
              >>><br>
              >>>   # Winter --<br>
              >>>      # date = dateobj # +
              datetime.timedelta(seconds=time.altzone)<br>
              >>>      # Summer<br>
              >>>      date = dateobj +
              datetime.timedelta(seconds=time.altzone)<br>
              >>><br>
              >>>   #!/bin/bash<br>
              >>> if date +%Z | grep -e BST; then<br>
              >>>      echo "Summer"<br>
              >>>      ./cross-eit3S.py 65692,"<a
                href="http://hd.channel4.com" rel="noreferrer"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hd.channel4.com</a>"<br>
              >>> else<br>
              >>>      echo "Winter"<br>
              >>>      ./cross-eit3W.py 65692,"<a
                href="http://hd.channel4.com" rel="noreferrer"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hd.channel4.com</a>"<br>
              >>> fi<br>
              >>> /usr/local/bin/mythfilldatabase --refresh-all
              --verbose xmltv --file<br>
              >>> --sourceid 1 --xmlfile output.xml<br>
              >>><br>
              >> You are right that the mix of bash and python is
              somewhat cringe-worthy: it<br>
              >> would be neater to do the change in python rather
              than calling two versions<br>
              >> of the script.<br>
              >><br>
              >> However a more serious problem is that this
              approach changes the time zone<br>
              >> for all the dates in the EIT for that week. In
              steady state that's likely<br>
              >> to be fine, but in those two transition weeks of
              the year, when one batch<br>
              >> of listings has some listings before the change
              and some after the change,<br>
              >> some of those listings will be assigned the wrong
              offset.<br>
              >><br>
              >> The correct but slightly more laborious fix, in
              my opinion, would be to<br>
              >> apply the offset to each individual programme
              listing in the batch, thus<br>
              >> possibly having programmes in the same batch with
              different UTC offsets,<br>
              >> which will happen during those transition weeks.
              I'll code it up in python<br>
              >> when I have a moment, starting from the code that
              Stephen posted yesterday<br>
              >> that got rid of the absurdly long lines.<br>
              > No, there will not be different offsets. 
              Cross-eit.py is exporting<br>
              > data from the MythTV database.  MythTV internally
              only works in UTC,<br>
              > so all the exported data will be UTC.  So all that
              needs to be done is<br>
              > to add the string " +0000" on the end of the "start="
              and "stop="<br>
              > timestamps.<br>
              ><br>
              > When mythfilldatabase reads an XMLTV file, it will
              use the timezone<br>
              > offsets to convert each timestamp to UTC before it
              puts it into the<br>
              > database.  EPG collected from a TV channel (using
              EIT, MHEG5 or OpenTV<br>
              > which are the formats I have used) is usually in
              local time and<br>
              > therefore will have the correct offsets on it.  When
              that collected<br>
              > data crosses a daylight saving change, you will see
              the offset values<br>
              > change (unless the EPG provider has screwed things
              up, which is fairly<br>
              > common in this part of the world).<br>
              ><br>
              > It is possible that the old cross-eit.py code that
              included using<br>
              > timedelta was from when MythTV used local times in
              its database.  That<br>
              > caused hideous complications in the code for handling
              daylight saving,<br>
              > so the internal times were all changed to UTC many
              versions of MythTV<br>
              > ago now.<br>
              ><br>
              > I have put an updated version of cross-eit.py (v2.1)
              with this change<br>
              > on my web server:<br>
              ><br>
              > <a href="http://www.jsw.gen.nz/mythtv/cross-eit.py"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.jsw.gen.nz/mythtv/cross-eit.py</a><br>
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              Thanks will give that a try<br>
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            <div>Just curious, do real TV's and set-top-boxes with
              satellite tuners show the EPG for Channel Four HD on
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      <p>"Just curious, do real TV's and set-top-boxes with satellite
        tuners show the EPG for Channel Four HD on Freesat? "<br>
        No they don't show the 8 day EPG but now, next works. So you get
        the next program.</p>
      <p>cross-eit.py (v2.1) with this change works fine, many thanks. <br>
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