<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 9:14 PM Stephen Worthington <<a href="mailto:stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz">stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 18:07:06 -0700, you wrote:<br>
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>I just had a very frustrating experience that I wanted to report because<br>
>I'm sure this couldn't be the intended design.<br>
><br>
>I changed my router, which uses a different default gateway, so it hosed<br>
>the hard IP address I had coded into the backend. I mistakenly started the<br>
>frontend and it put up a dialog called startup status or something, and of<br>
>course it couldn't connect to the backend.<br>
><br>
>One of the buttons on that screen is exit. I clicked and confirmed and it<br>
>exited. But I got a notification saying the frontend crashed unexpectedly<br>
>and would restart, which led me back into the process over and over.<br>
><br>
>The restart is not the expected outcome of exiting, and it comes so fast<br>
>it's hard to open a terminal window, etc., before it does. I finally<br>
>managed, but it was not fun.<br>
><br>
>This problem could be eliminated if a normal exit (rather than a crash)<br>
>were registered when one hits that exit button.<br>
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I surmise you are running MythTV on an Ubuntu system. In Ubuntu, the<br>
frontend is a program named "mythfrontend.real", which is run by a<br>
script named "mythfrontend". It is the job of the script to restart<br>
mythfrontend.real if it crashes, and as mythfrontend.real does<br>
sometimes crash, I find it very useful. But the script does have a<br>
bug which does what you have seen - it does not understand when<br>
mythfrontend.real has been shut down, as opposed to crashing.<br>
<br>
Even when it mythfrontend.real is being restarted all the time, it is<br>
usually not a problem to open a terminal if you know how. But it<br>
depends on the system. If you are running Xubuntu, then you should be<br>
able to do Ctrl-Esc to bring up the desktop menu and start a terminal<br>
from there. Due to a recent bug, if it is the first time you are<br>
using Ctrl-Esc since booting, you may need to do it twice before you<br>
get the menu. From the menu, go to Applications > Terminal Emulator<br>
or Applications > System > Xfce Terminal. But it does depend on your<br>
XFCE version as to where you will find a terminal.<br>
<br>
And on almost any Linux these days, you can get a text mode terminal<br>
by using Ctrl-Alt-F1. To get back to the GUI screen from there, it is<br>
usually Ctrl-Alt-F7 on Ubuntu, but on other systems you may need to<br>
try all the Ctrl-Alt-Fx keys.<br>
<br>
On some systems, Ctrl-Alt-T opens a terminal window, but that may only<br>
work when mythfrontend.real is not running.<br>
<br>
It is also possible to log in from another PC via SSH if you have that<br>
enabled.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yes it it Ubuntu. It never occurred to me to use ctl-alt-f1. I suppose I could also learn not to start the FE before the BE is running!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Since this is a "feature" rather than a bug, I won't post a ticket on it.</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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