<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:51 PM Gary Buhrmaster <<a href="mailto:gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com">gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 6:10 PM Greg Woods <<a href="mailto:greg@gregandeva.net" target="_blank">greg@gregandeva.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> In that case, it would appear that my days of using MythTV are numbered.<br>
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Depending on what channels you watch<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, there's the rub. I do have an OTA antenna and an old-style HD Homerun. It works well, but many of the channels we watch (including CSPAN2 and CSPAN3 that started this thread) are not OTA channels. Also I do watch sports, which greatly limits my options. The NFL is the only major US sport that is mostly available OTA. All the others require sports cable/satellite channels. So for now I am stuck with Comcast or satellite. There are streaming services (Hulu, Sling) that offer channels, but their DVR's will not let you watch a recording until it is completed. That's fine for things like weekly network prime-time shows, but unacceptable for sports. All I want to do with sports programs is time shift and fast forward/skip through ads.</div><div><br></div><div>For now I'll just rent the cheapest non-DVR box I can get from Comcast so my wife can watch CSPAN 2&3. There are some other channels she watches such as Hallmark for example that are still available via Cable Card, but what I have read here says that more and more of them will only be available to me via streaming services or Comcast. If some of her channels go to IPTV, that's no problem for us because she always watches her shows live (except for shows that we both watch, of course, which I record via MythTV). When the sports channels go, I will probably just have to give that up and punt Comcast completely; I will not be forced into renting a lot of their lousy overpriced equipment; I just got away from all that. But the landscape may have changed a lot by then. Already we watch more and more of our TV from various streaming services (Netflix, BritBox, and Great Courses Plus are our three at present). But in the end it's always being a sports fan that trips me up.</div><div><br></div><div>So that's a lot of detail about my own personal situation, but it illustrates the point that one person's recommendations are not likely to be useful for someone with very different viewing requirements.</div><div><br></div><div>For my own case, the thread was useful because this is the first I heard of this "IPTV migration", and like most technological "advancements" touted by government-mandated monopolies like Comcast, it sucks for us and is more in their interest than ours despite how it is likely to be marketed. Another way to use their monopoly power, hand-in-hand with the government, to force us to watch the content the way they want us to rather than the way we want to.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
(and whether you require them in HD(*))<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In the case of CSPAN*, HD is not a requirement, but even the SD channels do not work here via cable card (except for original CSPAN, but not CSPAN 2&3).</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
that could be today, a month from now,<br>
or a decade(**) from now (just like the<br>
previously mentioned TiVo-ites who<br>
intend to continue using their solution<br>
until something they really care about<br>
stops working).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>And that's what I am going to do with MythTV.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Based on some other recent changes it<br>
would appear that should you live in the<br>
Comcast central division you are more<br>
likely to see any wholesale migration<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't know if the Denver area qualifies as "central" or "west" here.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
> Heck, the X1 boxes don't even have component outputs either<br>
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Well, some of the (earlier gen) X1 boxes<br>
(the Pace XG1v1) do have component<br>
out. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, but you can't go into a Comcast store and request a particular type of box and meet with much success. I have tried similar things in the past.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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That said, I think most would agree that<br>
using a HD-PVR2 solution is not optimal,<br>
although as with all else, sometimes you<br>
do what you have to do, and it might<br>
be an acceptable step for some.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>For now that option remains on the table, but it too requires renting another box from Comcast as well as purchasing a new device. And it may not be possible to use it anyway, as the HDMI ports do not work with HDCP-protected channels (which most of them are going to be now) unless you can get them to give you a component-capable box (see above for your chances of that; GFL).</div><div><br></div><div>--Greg</div></div></div>