<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:41 AM Stephen Worthington <<a href="mailto:stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz">stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sun, 10 May 2020 20:20:30 -0700, you wrote:<br>
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>On Sun, May 10, 2020, 7:58 PM Greg <<a href="mailto:gregl@nycap.rr.com" target="_blank">gregl@nycap.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>Ok thanks I will investigate that. But it's been working fine with the<br>
>current power source for like a year now, and others on this list use it<br>
>too.<br>
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USB cables often fit badly into the sockets. If so, the connection<br>
generally gets worse over time as you get dirt or oxidisation on the<br>
contacts. So badly fitting cables will degrade with time. The result<br>
is that the voltage drop across the cable will increase markedly. And<br>
they can be too thin - the amount of copper in the wires is too little<br>
and that causes high resistance and a big voltage drop across the<br>
length of the cable. Some (most?) USB cables are designed only for<br>
data transmission, or to run very low power devices. For a high power<br>
device, you need a better (thicker) cable. The high power devices do<br>
a negotiation with device supplying the power and request high power<br>
mode. If the cable is not capable of high power, that negotiation is<br>
not supposed to work and the device should either only work in low<br>
power mode or it should turn itself off. But USB cable makers often<br>
make cables not capable of high power transmission that will allow the<br>
high power mode negotiation to succeed. So even though the device<br>
supplying the power is sending high current, the voltage drop in the<br>
cable means that at the other end, the voltage can be below the level<br>
required for proper operation or to fully charge the device's battery.<br>
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I have had two notably bad experiences with USB cables. One was a USB<br>
DVB-T tuner, and it was very like your experience - it would go for a<br>
number of days just fine, then suddenly stop. If I unplugged it and<br>
plugged it in again, it would usually work again. When I finally<br>
investigated properly, I found the cable was just a little loose in<br>
the PC's socket. I replaced the cable with one that fit more tightly<br>
and the tuner was much more reliable. It still occasionally caused<br>
trouble, but only when I had bumped the cables (or in one case, after<br>
we had a small earthquake). So because of that and because I needed<br>
more DVB-T tuners, I finally replaced all my DVB-T tuners with an 8<br>
tuner PCIe card.<br>
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The second bad experience was my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 tablet. Its<br>
USB charging cable was supplied with it by Samsung, so I assumed it<br>
was a good one. But right from the start, the tablet took a long time<br>
to charge, and the time gradually got longer and longer and the<br>
battery life on one charge was getting less and less. And then I<br>
started to have to jiggle the cable in the socket to get it to charge<br>
at all. I actually called the Samsung help line about this, and they<br>
said it sounds like a bad cable. So I bought a expensive (NZ$30)<br>
Pudney & Lee charging cable, which was a fair bit longer than the old<br>
Samsung cable, but fit very tightly at both ends and was significantly<br>
thicker - it has more copper in the wires in the cable. Then suddenly<br>
the battery charging times were what was specified for the tablet,<br>
rather than three times as long. And over a number of charging<br>
cycles, the battery life came back again. So the original Samsung<br>
supplied cable was clearly bad from the start - it is probably less<br>
than the specification required to charge the tablet properly as it is<br>
too thin and has too much voltage drop even when the plugs fit<br>
properly. So definitely NZ$30 well spent. But I am surprised that a<br>
reputable company like Samsung would supply a bad cable with an<br>
expensive top-of-the-line product like my tablet. But they did - so<br>
now I always suspect any USB cable I get and keep an eye on how well<br>
it is working.<br>
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