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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/08/2019 18:43, Jay Harbeston
wrote:<br>
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<div class="">On Aug 7, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Klaas de Waal <<a
href="mailto:klaas.de.waal@gmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">klaas.de.waal@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
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!important;" class="">On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 16:16, Don
Brett <</span><a href="mailto:dlbrett@zoominternet.net"
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moz-do-not-send="true">dlbrett@zoominternet.net</a><span
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I missed the announcements when my local broadcasters
decided to change<br class="">
frequencies and required everyone to re-scan. I thought
my HDHR-Connect<br class="">
box stopped working, so I bought a new HDHR-Quatro (four
tuners).<br class="">
<br class="">
The installation went pretty well. I deleted the existing
tuners and<br class="">
created four new ones for the Quatro box (thanks Klaas for
the<br class="">
instructions). The channel scan worked fine and all four
tuners are<br class="">
working better than expected; some of the hard to get
channels are<br class="">
working really well.<br class="">
<br class="">
However, the program guide is unpopulated
("Unknown(Unknown)" for all<br class="">
the new tuner channels. I also have an Hauppauge HD-PVR
for the cable<br class="">
box and those channels are fine. I've run
mythfilldatabase several<br class="">
times; do I have a myth-setup issue, or maybe something
with<br class="">
Schedules-Direct?<br class="">
<br class="">
Don<br class="">
<br class="">
PS - After the channel scan, I checked the channel editor
and all looked<br class="">
fine. I exited and re-entered mythtv-setup and re-checked
the channel<br class="">
editor. Filtering for each of the Quatro antenna inputs,
it shows all<br class="">
the cable-tv channels mixed into the antenna channels.
Example: if I<br class="">
set the "Video Sources" filter to "All", it shows five
cable TV "Video<br class="">
On Demand" channels (HD-PVR, Ant-1. Ant-2, Ant-3. Ant-4).
I assume this<br class="">
is a display issue, but ??<br class="">
<br class="">
PS - I temporarily turned on EIT and it mostly filled in
the guide.<br class="">
<br class="">
PS - I reported the frequency change to Schedules-Direct
and asked if<br class="">
any updates were needed on their end; waiting for
response.<br class="">
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">The way I understand your system you
need to configure two video</span><br style="caret-color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size:
13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
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class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">sources, one for the HD-PVR/cable
and one for the Quatro/OTA.</span><br style="caret-color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size:
13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"
class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">All four tuners of the Quatro have
to be connected to the one video</span><br
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">source you created for the
Quatro/OTA.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">In the mythtv-setup Channel Editor,
when you select "All" video</span><br style="caret-color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size:
13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"
class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">sources, you get all channels from
all video sources.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0,
0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"
class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">If there are channels that are both
on the HD-PVR/cable and on the</span><br
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">Quattro/OTA then you see that
channel twice.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">Note that on the mythfrontend
Program Guide the same channel from</span><br
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">different video sources is shown
only once.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">If you want to use EIT/EPG then you
need to do that on only one tuner</span><br
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">per video source. So for the
Quattro/OTA you configure EIT/EPG only</span><br
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">for the first tuner.</span><br
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">I am not familiar with
Schedules-Direct but maybe it works</span><br
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">automatically OK once the setup is
correct.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">Klaas.</span><br style="caret-color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size:
13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"
class="">
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<div>I will need to do this at the beginning of September, and my
only concern is getting the xml ids set up. If rather than doing
a wipe and rescan, will just doing a scan, will the scan update
the channels?</div>
<div><br class="">
</div>
<div>I don’t want to do the OTA method above as I don’t want to
lose the xml id values currently in the db for the 18 + Over the
Air channels.</div>
<div><br class="">
</div>
<div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class="">I am currently using
the tv_grab_zz_sdjson script for my xml guide data in the
USA. </span></div>
<div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class="">Currently all the
channels are mapped correctly in the form </span><a
href="http://I43730.json.schedulesdirect.org" class=""
style="font-family: Palatino-Roman;" moz-do-not-send="true">I43730.json.schedulesdirect.org</a><span
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class="">.</span></div>
<div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class=""><br class="">
</span></div>
<div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class="">Will I need to go back
in once the channels are rescanned and update the db / edit
the channels to make sure they get mapped correctly?</span></div>
<div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class=""><br class="">
</span></div>
Thanks!
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
</blockquote>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>mythconverg_backup has a option to save xmltvid data to a file in
the same backup directory as a normal database backup, do this
before a full channel scan.<br>
</p>
<pre style="color: black; background-color: rgb(249, 249, 249); border: 1px solid rgb(221, 221, 221); padding: 1em; white-space: pre-wrap; line-height: 1.3em; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><path_to>/mythconverg_backup.pl --backup_xmltvids
The created file contains two different formats, the first being a series of update statements using only callsign:
e.g.
UPDATE channel SET xmltvid = 'I17155.json.schedulesdirect.org' WHERE callsign = 'Channel 4';
</pre>
<p>There is an "Alternative" format in the same file (this
Alternative format is commented out in the file /*....*/ style)
uses both channel number and callsign and is probably only useful
where channel numbers do not change.<br>
</p>
<p>e.g. <br>
</p>
<p>UPDATE channel SET xmltvid = 'I17155.json.schedulesdirect.org'
WHERE channum = '4' AND name = 'Channel 4';</p>
<p>Once you have done the full channel scan you can just use
mythconverg_restore to get back all your xmltvid's <br>
</p>
<p>e.g. <br>
</p>
<pre style="font-family: monospace, Courier; color: black; background-color: rgb(249, 249, 249); border: 1px solid rgb(221, 221, 221); padding: 1em; white-space: pre-wrap; line-height: 1.3em; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><path_to>/mythconverg_restore.pl --restore_xmltvids
or if you have more than one backup xmltvid file
<path_to>/mythconverg_restore.pl --restore_xmltvids --filename mythtv_xmltvid_backup-20080626211808.sql
The wiki has details see <a href="https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore#Backup_xmltvid_data_.28before_doing_a_full_channel_scan.29">https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore#Backup_xmltvid_data_.28before_doing_a_full_channel_scan.29</a>
Mike
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