<html dir="ltr"><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body class="" style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;" bgcolor="#f7f7f7" text="#818181" link="#3399ff" vlink="#2c2c2c"><div>On Sun, 2019-02-24 at 15:43 -0500, Jay Harbeston wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Tom Dexter <<a href="mailto:digitalaudiorock@gmail.com" class="">digitalaudiorock@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On 2/24/19, Jay Harbeston <</span><a href="mailto:jharbestonus@gmail.com" style="font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">jharbestonus@gmail.com</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">> wrote:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><br class=""><br class="">I am currently using 2 HDHR4-2US tuners that replaced 2 HDHR3-2US tuners.<br class="">The HDHR3 tuners exhibited the drop every few minutes or so, causing<br class="">pixellation as you described for one(real channel 46) of the 4 broadcast<br class="">stations here. This was also a known problem with these tuners before the<br class="">HDHR4 came out. In earlier versions of the firmware the glitches were<br class="">longer, and more frequent.<br class=""><br class="">The HDHR4 tuners I currently use do not have this problem for any of the<br class="">channels available locally.<br class=""><br class="">Every once in awhile, I do some testing with the HDHR3 tuners and I still<br class="">see the problems with them using the latest firmware for the HDHR3.<br class=""><br class="">Regards.<br class=""></blockquote><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I just saw this after I posted my reply. Very interesting, as this</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">sounds like it may in fact be the same thing I've experienced with NBC</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">out of NYC after they moved. To clarify one thing: I only use the</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">command line hdhomerun_config. When everyone refers to "symbol</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">quality" is that the same as the "seq" (signal error quality as I've</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">always understood) in the command line version?:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think the mapping to the gui description follows:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">ss= signal strength</div><div class="">Snq = signal quality</div><div class="">Seq = symbol quality</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When I was seeing the screen ‘sparkle’ , the symbol quality would drop and that is what I am referring to when using the HDHR3. I haven’t ever seen this condition when using the HDHR4.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I use a unix shell to log to a database every 10 seconds the results from the command line using the following mapping as follows(there’s more to the shell script, but this is the meat of it):</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">results=`hdhomerun_config $hdhr get /tuner$tuner/status 2> /dev/null | grep -v "ch=none"`</div><div class=""> if [ "x$results" = "x" ]</div><div class=""> then</div><div class=""> continue</div><div class=""> fi</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> set -k `echo $results`</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> chaninfo=$1</div><div class=""> lockinfo=$2</div><div class=""> siginfo=$3</div><div class=""> qualinfo=$4</div><div class=""> seqinfo=$5</div><div class=""> bpsinfo=$6</div><div class=""> ppsinfo=$7</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> tmpval=`echo $chaninfo | sed -e "s/^.*://"`</div><div class=""> if [ $tmpval -gt 100 ]</div><div class=""> then</div><div class=""> freq=$tmpval</div><div class=""> channel=${chanfreq[$freq]}</div><div class=""> else</div><div class=""> channel=$tmpval</div><div class=""> freq=${chanfreq[$channel]}</div><div class=""> fi</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> strength=`echo $siginfo | sed -e "s/^.*=//"`</div><div class=""> qual=`echo $qualinfo | sed -e "s/^.*=//"`</div><div class=""> seq=`echo $seqinfo | sed -e "s/^.*=//"`</div><div class=""> bps=`echo $bpsinfo | sed -e "s/^.*=//"`</div><div class=""> pps=`echo $ppsinfo | sed -e "s/^.*=//"`</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> querystr="insert into tunerlogs values ( NOW(), '$hdhr', '$tuner', '$channel', '$freq', '$strength', '$qual', '$seq', '$bps', '$pps' );”</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When I was using the HDHR3 tuners, I did the above every second to capture the seq drop. I now only check once a minute checking for bad transmit from the towers.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>mythtv-users mailing list</pre><a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org"><pre>mythtv-users@mythtv.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users"><pre>http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette"><pre>http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>MythTV Forums: </pre><pre><a href="https://forum.mythtv.org">https://forum.mythtv.org</a></pre></blockquote><div><br></div><div>i switched from two 7 year old hdhr3-us tuners to one quatro. </div><div>on the hdhr3, they did issue a fix for a 30 second dropout. i had this issue on one channel abc out of los angeles and this in fact did resolve the symbol quality dropping to 0 every 30 seconds. that fix is here: <a href="http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/hdhomerun3_8vsb_30s_solution.pdf">http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/hdhomerun3_8vsb_30s_solution.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>on the quatro, i had a few issues. the first was that in my network i got bad breakup with more than 2 tuners active. sd tested and told me internal network issue. i switched to mythhdrecorder as external recorder and got streams over http and that problem cleared up. i also had reception problems with a lot of jumping around on signal quality and sometimes symbol quality (resulting in dropout). i am in first floor condo, so i don't have a lot of anntena options and rely on reflected signal paths. i got this amplifier which separates out uhf and vhf and went to one antenna for vhf and one for uhf and i got the problem solved.</div><div><a href="https://www.amazon.com/RCA-TVPRAMP1Z-Preamplifier-Outdoor-Antenna/dp/B003P92D9Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8">https://www.amazon.com/RCA-TVPRAMP1Z-Preamplifier-Outdoor-Antenna/dp/B003P92D9Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8</a></div><div><br></div><div>i am able to get every ota station in my area without breakups at all. however the repack in my area is already causing a problem on my pbs station, but i have not had the time to try to reposition the uhf part to get that and not lose the others. i also use an lte filter on the uhf. i found this pre-amp better than anything else i had tried and did solve the signal quality and symbol quality dropping out on the quatro. fwiw. </div><div><br></div></body></html>