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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/26/18 11:53 AM, Greg Oliver
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      <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:30 AM James Abernathy
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            <div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">On Dec 26, 2018, at
              9:46 AM, glen <<a href="mailto:glenb@glenb.us"
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                <blockquote type="cite">On Tue, 2018-12-25 at 22:16
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                          12/25/18 9:41 PM, glen wrote:<br>
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                          <div>On Tue, 2018-12-25 at 18:45 -0500, James
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                            rgb(114,159,207);padding-left:1ex">While
                            sitting around during the holidays watching
                            TV, I started thinking about how to improve
                            my home media center.  My backend is a
                            powerful server with RAID so I’m covered
                            there.  My Frontends need some work though.
                            It maybe my brain going crazy, but I no
                            longer think my Ivy Bridge i3 NUC is not up
                            to the task.  Too much tearing at the bottom
                            of the screen no matter what settings I use.
                            This started as the kernels got updated on
                            Ubuntu 16.04 in prep for moving to 18.04. My
                            guess is improving the drivers for the new
                            Intel chips they messed up the old 3rd Core
                            generation drivers.
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                            <div>Even my RP3 B+ has better video
                              performance.  Since I use FireTV in
                              addition to Mythtv, I’m thinking of
                              something like the Nvidia Shield.  It can
                              run all the apps that the FireTV does and
                              it plays games and runs mythtv frontend.</div>
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                            <div>At $150, I can’t buy a more powerful PC
                              than what I have. So I’m thinking the
                              Shield is right solution moving forward
                              without breaking the bank.</div>
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                            <div>What do others think??</div>
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                            <div>Jim A</div>
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                          <pre>i have 2 shields i got for very low price. i agree to be able to have netflix, amazon, hbogo etc plus mythfrontend</pre>
                          <pre>is a big advantage. mythfrontend runs pretty well. i have a little trouble with h264 using mediacodec so i use ffmpeg</pre>
                          <pre>codec for everything. also for me only ffmpeg codec allows subtitles. playback is acceptable. not as good as on my backend, </pre>
                          <pre>a ryzen 7 with nvidia 750 ti. you could also try to build from master and check out the vaapi 2 and see if that improves </pre>
                          <pre>the nuc's before you take the plunge. overall i'm quite happy with the shield on a 4k tv and thanks to the great </pre>
                          <pre>work by peter bennet now having mythfrontend makes a really versatile solution for me.</pre>
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                        <p>The advances of small multi-core CPUs with
                          built-in GPU has been great since I retired
                          from the industry. I know that a PC that you
                          spend $400 for will do the job. Also an old PC
                          with a good Nvidia graphics card with do the
                          job.  For me form factor is also a big issue. 
                          That's why I spent a lot of time debugging
                          performance on the 3rd gen Core i3 NUC. But
                          that performance is going down not up.</p>
                        <p>The RP3 B+ is quite good on Kodi but still
                          lacking on mythfrontend. Neither can do
                          SlingTV, Prime Video etc.</p>
                        <p>So if the developers are spending their time
                          on Nvidia Shield then that may be the
                          direction I should head. The hardware specs on
                          the Shield are impressive and the price is
                          nice. I am sticking with v29 on the backend
                          because it's stable. I know the pre30
                          mythfrontend works on my Macbook with the v29
                          backend, but had missing libraries on the RP3
                          with Raspbian. So I can't see if any
                          improvements have happened on the RP3. <br>
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                        <p>From monitoring the mailing list I see there
                          are a number of people with the Shield.  My
                          use case for the Shield would be Mythfrontend
                          displaying recorded MPG2 files from OTA
                          tuners. I use the HDHR Quatro and Connect
                          devices. <br>
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                        <p>Jim A</p>
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                      <div>i run the mythfrontend on a shield and also
                        use the hdhomerun quattro as well as hdpvr. the
                        files play without stutter and any frontend
                        features i use all work. i do have to use a
                        cheap usb wireless backlit keyboard to do edits
                        and other functions as the remote is limited (at
                        least for me). that was another 10 dollars. i
                        can't answer about question on dvb streams but i
                        think if u.s. mpeg2 hd plays those would also
                        play. i have mpeg2 files that go over
                        6gigs/hour. only issue i had was on hdpvr
                        content or other iptv content in h265 that i had
                        to change codec. but they play. </div>
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                So if the MPEG2 videos from the HDHR Quatro are good on
                the Shield then I may make the jump to it. I also use
                the USB wireless keyboard for editing and setup.</div>
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              class="gmail_default">Just make sure you create the
              playback profiles from the wiki and indeed, everything
              played back very nicely and de-interlacing was excellent.</div>
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    <p>So now for the stupid question. When you say de-interlacing was
      excellent, what do you mean? On what content does that matter? I
      only watch HDTV recordings from a HDHR Quatro via OTA antenna. 
      It's usually 720P or 1080i depending on channel and program. Both
      of those I consider HDTV.<br>
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    <p>Jim A</p>
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              class="gmail_default">I use HDPVRs and HDHRs (original
              models) as well here in the US. </div>
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                      <div>i don't know firestick 4k, but i had a cheap
                        box with the s905x arm, same as mibox, and it
                        was pretty bad on mythfrontend. shield a world
                        of difference on mythfrontend and everything
                        else. i did put libreelec on the cheap box and
                        kodi worked really well fwiw. hope that answers
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