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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:30 AM James Abernathy
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<div>On Tue, 2018-12-25 at 18:45 -0500, James
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sitting around during the holidays watching
TV, I started thinking about how to improve
my home media center. My backend is a
powerful server with RAID so I’m covered
there. My Frontends need some work though.
It maybe my brain going crazy, but I no
longer think my Ivy Bridge i3 NUC is not up
to the task. Too much tearing at the bottom
of the screen no matter what settings I use.
This started as the kernels got updated on
Ubuntu 16.04 in prep for moving to 18.04. My
guess is improving the drivers for the new
Intel chips they messed up the old 3rd Core
generation drivers.
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<div>Even my RP3 B+ has better video
performance. Since I use FireTV in
addition to Mythtv, I’m thinking of
something like the Nvidia Shield. It can
run all the apps that the FireTV does and
it plays games and runs mythtv frontend.</div>
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<div>At $150, I can’t buy a more powerful PC
than what I have. So I’m thinking the
Shield is right solution moving forward
without breaking the bank.</div>
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<div>What do others think??</div>
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<div>Jim A</div>
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<pre>i have 2 shields i got for very low price. i agree to be able to have netflix, amazon, hbogo etc plus mythfrontend</pre>
<pre>is a big advantage. mythfrontend runs pretty well. i have a little trouble with h264 using mediacodec so i use ffmpeg</pre>
<pre>codec for everything. also for me only ffmpeg codec allows subtitles. playback is acceptable. not as good as on my backend, </pre>
<pre>a ryzen 7 with nvidia 750 ti. you could also try to build from master and check out the vaapi 2 and see if that improves </pre>
<pre>the nuc's before you take the plunge. overall i'm quite happy with the shield on a 4k tv and thanks to the great </pre>
<pre>work by peter bennet now having mythfrontend makes a really versatile solution for me.</pre>
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<p>The advances of small multi-core CPUs with
built-in GPU has been great since I retired
from the industry. I know that a PC that you
spend $400 for will do the job. Also an old PC
with a good Nvidia graphics card with do the
job. For me form factor is also a big issue.
That's why I spent a lot of time debugging
performance on the 3rd gen Core i3 NUC. But
that performance is going down not up.</p>
<p>The RP3 B+ is quite good on Kodi but still
lacking on mythfrontend. Neither can do
SlingTV, Prime Video etc.</p>
<p>So if the developers are spending their time
on Nvidia Shield then that may be the
direction I should head. The hardware specs on
the Shield are impressive and the price is
nice. I am sticking with v29 on the backend
because it's stable. I know the pre30
mythfrontend works on my Macbook with the v29
backend, but had missing libraries on the RP3
with Raspbian. So I can't see if any
improvements have happened on the RP3. <br>
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<p>From monitoring the mailing list I see there
are a number of people with the Shield. My
use case for the Shield would be Mythfrontend
displaying recorded MPG2 files from OTA
tuners. I use the HDHR Quatro and Connect
devices. <br>
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<p>Jim A</p>
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<div>i run the mythfrontend on a shield and also
use the hdhomerun quattro as well as hdpvr. the
files play without stutter and any frontend
features i use all work. i do have to use a
cheap usb wireless backlit keyboard to do edits
and other functions as the remote is limited (at
least for me). that was another 10 dollars. i
can't answer about question on dvb streams but i
think if u.s. mpeg2 hd plays those would also
play. i have mpeg2 files that go over
6gigs/hour. only issue i had was on hdpvr
content or other iptv content in h265 that i had
to change codec. but they play. </div>
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So if the MPEG2 videos from the HDHR Quatro are good on
the Shield then I may make the jump to it. I also use
the USB wireless keyboard for editing and setup.</div>
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<div style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="gmail_default">Just make sure you create the
playback profiles from the wiki and indeed, everything
played back very nicely and de-interlacing was excellent.</div>
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<p>So now for the stupid question. When you say de-interlacing was
excellent, what do you mean? On what content does that matter? I
only watch HDTV recordings from a HDHR Quatro via OTA antenna.
It's usually 720P or 1080i depending on channel and program. Both
of those I consider HDTV.<br>
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<p>Jim A</p>
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<div>i don't know firestick 4k, but i had a cheap
box with the s905x arm, same as mibox, and it
was pretty bad on mythfrontend. shield a world
of difference on mythfrontend and everything
else. i did put libreelec on the cheap box and
kodi worked really well fwiw. hope that answers
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<pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>mythtv-users mailing list</pre><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org"><pre>mythtv-users@mythtv.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users"><pre>http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette"><pre>http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>MythTV Forums: </pre><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://forum.mythtv.org"><pre>https://forum.mythtv.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre>
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<pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>mythtv-users mailing list</pre><a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org"><pre>mythtv-users@mythtv.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users"><pre>http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette"><pre>http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>MythTV Forums: </pre><a href="https://forum.mythtv.org"><pre>https://forum.mythtv.org</pre></a></blockquote><pre><br></pre><pre>deinterlacing is necessary on anything like 1080i content not 720p. in terms of over the air, it can be interlaced</pre><pre>or not depending on channel. in terms of hdpvr it is all interlaced as far as i know so it comes into play.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>i have my settings to ffmpeg to decode, and linear blend 2x as deinterlacer. ymmv . i used the ffmpeg because i am</pre><pre>old, and from time to time i use subtitles, and i could not get it to work with the mediacodec default decoder.</pre><pre>you would probably be best to just leave defaults of mediacodec and you will get a good result</pre></body></html>