<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:34 PM Daryl McDonald <<a href="mailto:darylangela@gmail.com">darylangela@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 4, 2018, 8:19 AM Stephen Worthington <<a href="mailto:stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz" target="_blank">stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 06:39:56 -0500, you wrote:<br>
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>On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 9:23 PM glen <<a href="mailto:glenb@glenb.us" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">glenb@glenb.us</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On Sat, 2018-11-03 at 13:21 -0400, Daryl McDonald wrote:<br>
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>> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 9:00 AM Daryl McDonald <<a href="mailto:darylangela@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">darylangela@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
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>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018, 9:05 PM George Bingham <<a href="mailto:georgeb1962@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">georgeb1962@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 4:07 PM Daryl McDonald <<a href="mailto:darylangela@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">darylangela@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018, 9:36 AM glen <<a href="mailto:glenb@glenb.us" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">glenb@glenb.us</a> wrote:<br>
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>> On Fri, 2018-11-02 at 09:11 -0400, Daryl McDonald wrote:<br>
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>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 10:26 PM Stephen Worthington <<br>
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>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 11:11:23 -0400, you wrote:<br>
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>> >Greetings mythizens, I got 0-byte recordings for three shows airing<br>
>> between<br>
>> >10 &11 pm last night.<br>
>> >This was co-incident with me switching over to Kodi, and starting my VPN,<br>
>> >and streaming a show I had missed, I can wrap my head around losing the<br>
>> >hdhr (network tuner) recording but the other two were on internal tuner<br>
>> >cards. Is this normal behaviour?<br>
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>> >Does any one else using Myth and Kodi on the same box have suggestions?<br>
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>> >TIA Daryl<br>
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>> MythTV uses tuners in order, and does not ever try another tuner when<br>
>> one fails. So if the first tuner is a network one and you have<br>
>> somehow screwed up the network access to the tuner, then that could<br>
>> explain what happened. When you say the other two recordings were on<br>
>> internal tuner cards, how are you working out what card was used for<br>
>> the recordings? Were the recordings from a different source that<br>
>> needed to use the internal cards? When you get a failed recording,<br>
>> you can find the tuner it attempted to use in the logs, or you can go<br>
>> to the recording and use the I command twice (and then scroll down if<br>
>> necessary) to see the tuner.<br>
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>> How do you use a VPN? If it is run from the MythTV box then it is<br>
>> likely that setting up the VPN connection will have changed the<br>
>> routing on the MythTV box in a way that prevented access to the HDHR<br>
>> tuner. The standard way the VPNs work is to divert all traffic<br>
>> outside the box to the VPN connection. Often you can set them up so<br>
>> that local traffic on your network will not go via the VPN, but you<br>
>> will have to do extra configuration to do that.<br>
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>> Another consideration is if you have storage group locations that are<br>
>> stored over network connections to other boxes on your network. MythTV<br>
>> has problems with network locations not being accessible. If<br>
>> activating your VPN caused network storage groups to be inaccessible,<br>
>> but mythbackend kept trying to access them, that causes mythbackend to<br>
>> run extremely slowly due to it continually locking up in a bit of code<br>
>> that is trying the network connection and then failing. Each time the<br>
>> connection fails, it can move on and do a little more work, but as<br>
>> soon as it tries the connection again, it locks up again. Only part<br>
>> of mythbackend is affected, but that includes the threads that do<br>
>> recordings, so all recordings fail. As mythbackend tries to access<br>
>> all storage groups in that code, it does not matter if the networked<br>
>> storage group is only used for videos or pictures - it will still<br>
>> cause access to the recording storage groups to fail.<br>
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>> My only network component is the HDHR, everything else in in the combined<br>
>> FE/BE, internal cards have UDEV rules and are used first, before the HDHR.<br>
>> Storage is three 1TB drives, internal, one of which I just replaced<br>
>> (impending failure) and curiously when I used Kodi it unmounted storage2 of<br>
>> it's own volition at the time of the failure. I doubt that all three failed<br>
>> recordings were going to the one drive, as they were simotanious, just<br>
>> something else to scratch the head with. VPN is on the myth/kodi box only<br>
>> and engaged when needed through the unity bar.<br>
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>> why don't you test each tuner independent of myth. stop the backend and<br>
>> test the tuners to see they are receiving signal. with hdhomerun you can<br>
>> use the hdhomerun_config_gui util. and there are methods for the ones<br>
>> directly attached. if those work properly, take a look at your mythtv-setup<br>
>> and make sure the tuner setup is what you think and the storage directories<br>
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>> I have a similar issue from time to time. I have one card that has two<br>
>> tuners on it, but can do up to 3 recordings if two of them share a<br>
>> multiplex. This often happens starting at 7:00 where there will be three<br>
>> shows all starting at the same time. Often one of them would not tune<br>
>> within the tuning time out period and I am guessing that since it starts<br>
>> each recording nearly at the same time that there must be additional time<br>
>> allowed or something. Anyway, I now have one of the recordings set to start<br>
>> a minute early and since I made that change, it hasn't missed out on any<br>
>> recordings.<br>
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>> Not sure if that's happening to you or not, but since it took place when<br>
>> you have multiple recordings starting at the same time, maybe stagger them<br>
>> a bit by starting one of them a minute early.<br>
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>> this was a one time episode, all is working as expected now, I think I<br>
>> will check the permissions though.<br>
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>> Interesting to know George, but for years now I have recorded by SD time,<br>
>> 3 or even 4 episodes at the same time without incident<br>
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>> I may have spoke to soon, it looks like my problems may be related to the<br>
>> storage drive replacement. The last two news recordings have been<br>
>> unwatchable, intermitten freeze-ups until inability to play at all, while,<br>
>> a football recording made the same night a couple hours later plays great.<br>
>> I'm going to use disks to check it out and am open to suggestions for<br>
>> confirming if the new drive is a lemon or not. TIA Daryl<br>
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>> Maybe its just a coincidence, because the file system on the new drive<br>
>> checks OK and smartmontools doesn't find any fault.?<br>
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>I'm using ext4 and have been for years without problems, its just since I<br>
>replaced a drive that was about to fail. I'm finding that the system<br>
>unmounts and remounts the drive from time to time. While using Kodi I see<br>
>on-screen notifications saying "removable media storage 2 successfully<br>
>removed", /etc/fstab has it mounted at boot, I used clonezilla to put the<br>
>files,bootloader, UUID, and label on the replacement drive. Is there<br>
>something else I need to do to keep the drive mounted? Storage 1 and 3<br>
>remain rock solid<br>
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If the drive is on an internal SATA port, there is no way it should be<br>
unmounting itself. What do the logs say about why it is happening?<br>
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MythTV Forums: <a href="https://forum.mythtv.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forum.mythtv.org</a></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">Yes it is! which log would you like to see? I'll pastebinit.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Here is the back end log:</div><div> <a href="http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JNWTmYNtxD/">http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JNWTmYNtxD/</a></div><div>And the Front End log:</div><div><a href="http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R3wYXX8TY2/">http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R3wYXX8TY2/</a><br></div><div>And here is the syslog:</div><div><a href="http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jnTxDMJqrg/">http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jnTxDMJqrg/</a><br></div><div>All help in figuring thisout is greatly appreciated. Daryl</div></div></div></div></div></div>