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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/14/2017 4:11 PM, Greg Oliver
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Anthony Giggins <span
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<div class="h5">On 15 December 2017 at 05:31, Greg
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Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Andre Newman
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> On 14 Dec 2017, at 16:53,
David Engel <<a
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> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at
12:37:02PM +0100, Andre Newman
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>>> On 14 Dec 2017, at
00:54, Anthony Giggins <<a
href="mailto:seven@seven.dorksville.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">seven@seven.dorksville.net</a>>
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>>> On 14 December 2017
at 09:33, David Engel <<a
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>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017
at 11:01:42PM +0000, Jim Abernathy
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>>>> I have 2 Harmony
Smart control remotes and I love
them. For controlling standard
stuff it works great. I even have
one mythtv frontend controlled by
it. That system has a Microsoft
MCE 1039 IR remote and I added the
Mythtv FE as a Microsoft Media
PC. That remote works on Live TV,
FireTV, and Mythtv.<br>
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>>>> So now to the
problem. My newest FE uses an old
Vista MCE remote model VRC-1100.
Using the wiki on mythtv on the
VRC-1100, I got my FE working fine
with the Microsoft Vista remote.
Now I want the Harmony Smart
Control remote to work with it.
But not sure where to start. I
thought I’d check with the experts
here before digging much further.<br>
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>>> Chuck your IR remote
and receiver and go get a ~$15 (or
less) USB<br>
>>> Bluetooth dongle.
Then configure your Harmony Hub to
use BT instead<br>
>>> of IR. You'll get a
*much* more reliable and faster
remote.<br>
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>>> David<br>
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>>> Ditto Bluetooth is
miles better then IR with the
Harmony setup.<br>
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>> Very interesting, which
Harmony profile do you use for the
Bluetooth?<br>
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>> My IR has always been a
bit of a pain and I have a couple
of BT adaptors knocking around.<br>
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> As noted in another message
in this thread, tell the Harmony
you're<br>
> setting up a Windows
Computer.<br>
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</span>Thanks I spotted that on the
way past, a little job for the
weekend.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Just a curious
bystander, but could someone tell me *why*
this is so much better than IR which has
worked for me well for so many years. In
my opinion, I have had several issue with
BT on Linux in the past, and I cannot
think of a single time IR has failed me.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Is it just the
response time? So going from IR on the
remote directly to the IR receiver through
USB on the host is that much slower than
going WiFi from the remote to the Hub,
then BT to the BT receiver through the
same USB with keyboard emulation is that
much faster?</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Any other pros to
switching to BT? I guess I could always
run them both since the remote does both
and play with it, but it just seems like I
would not notice anything since I never
type with a remote and I have already
mapped all the keys I would ever use in my
lirc config file..</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Just trying to get
the benefits all explained :)<br>
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<div>Key Presses are much more responsive (makes the
whole frontend feel faster) and theres no messing
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<div>The only down side is trying to get "cheap"
linux compatible BT dongles, seems to be hit or
miss which chipsets are floating about.</div>
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<div>Anthony</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Long ago I bought a Tivo peanut remote
just to have a small keyboard to use when I needed to type in
MythTV for whatever reason. It came with it's own BT receiver
and works well for that. I also have some micro keyboards
that have their own USB sticks (like a logitech Unified
Receiver) that are hand sized. They needed recharging too
often to keep me happy, so now they are used for headless
servers and to watch MythTV from my laptop in hotel rooms when
I need them.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I guess I will just have to setup the
harmony stuff to see if it is noticeable. I do not really
like the Hub architecture - I can control it from anywhere on
the network with no authentication whatsoever. Not very smart
on their part. I guess I will put it on the same private
network with my DirectTV receivers in the same boat.. All
this IoT stuff is quickly getting out of hand with security :)
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for the info.<br>
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I've been using wireless keyboard/trackball combos for years with
MythTV. I tried the IR remote, but it was so slow and unresponsive
that I just stick with the keyboard. The keyboard also makes email,
web browsing, and shell access simple. I have had good results with
the IO Gear wireless keyboards. They are not IR, so no line of
sight issues. The batteries last about as long as a regular remote
would (more than 1 year).<br>
Jay<br>
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