<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:01 AM Hika van den Hoven <<a href="mailto:hikavdh@gmail.com">hikavdh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hoi Anthony,<br class="gmail_msg">
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Monday, November 28, 2016, 7:03:14 AM, you wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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> On 28 November 2016 at 13:00, Stephen Worthington <<a href="mailto:stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:32:53 -0700, you wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Stephen Worthington <<br class="gmail_msg">
>><a href="mailto:stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> Its an Nvidia bug, not Ubuntu - there have already been several<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> threads on the list about it. If your Nvidia chip is recent enough,<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> you can change to using the Nvidia 340 drivers which are still fine.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> The 304.132 drivers only work properly when run from root.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> Correct, but also potentially wrong; this is a bit of a chimera.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>While a vast majority of bugs are the result of Upstream code having<br class="gmail_msg">
>>problems, "long term stable" releases should, in a portion of the<br class="gmail_msg">
>>population's opinion, be held to a higher standard of testing before<br class="gmail_msg">
>>release to the masses.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>Granted, Nvidia code isn't quite as server-critical as a working Kernel, or<br class="gmail_msg">
>>PHP with all the security patches and none of the feature bloat...<br class="gmail_msg">
>>(a specific consideration 'stable' releases take, ABI does not change and<br class="gmail_msg">
>>featureset is identical - one which I, and people like Charles Cazabon of<br class="gmail_msg">
>>'getmail' notoriety, particularly take issue to, because if a feature<br class="gmail_msg">
>>addition fixes a long standing bug and at the same time uses more secure<br class="gmail_msg">
>>coding practices, is it really a bugfix, a security patch, or a feature<br class="gmail_msg">
>>addition?)<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>That all said, while the MythTV population has now tested, reported bugs<br class="gmail_msg">
>>with, and (hopefully) contributed the same bugs to Ubuntu, Ubuntu's own<br class="gmail_msg">
>>testers could have a more structured methodology to verify VDPAU<br class="gmail_msg">
>>acceleration as part of a release procedure. I don't own an Nvidia card so<br class="gmail_msg">
>>I cannot propose such a methodology, but this is a potential.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>If nobody yet has filed a bug on Ubuntu's tracker, now'd be a good time for<br class="gmail_msg">
>>one of those who have tested to do such. As a community effort, discussion<br class="gmail_msg">
>>and support is great, but the buck has to be passed up the foodchain until<br class="gmail_msg">
>>someone in charge of packaging can fix it somehow.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>Mike<br class="gmail_msg">
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> I filed a bug as soon as it happened to me, from the crash reporter,<br class="gmail_msg">
> but it looks like nothing is being done at the Ubuntu end of things -<br class="gmail_msg">
> people just seem to be waiting for Nvidia to release a fixed version.<br class="gmail_msg">
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> <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/1639215" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/1639215</a><br class="gmail_msg">
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> Yes this is an upstream nvidia issue but as per one of the<br class="gmail_msg">
> suggestions the packagers should have, created a fake version that<br class="gmail_msg">
> rolls back to the previous release, although this probably would<br class="gmail_msg">
> break any automated build scripts.<br class="gmail_msg">
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> Cheers,<br class="gmail_msg">
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> Anthony <br class="gmail_msg">
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Or at least make that previous release available again!!! So people<br class="gmail_msg">
CAN rollback.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Tot mails,<br class="gmail_msg">
Hika mailto:<a href="mailto:hikavdh@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">hikavdh@gmail.com</a><br class="gmail_msg">
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"Zonder hoop kun je niet leven<br class="gmail_msg">
Zonder leven is er geen hoop<br class="gmail_msg">
Het eeuwige dilemma<br class="gmail_msg">
Zeker als je hoop moet vernietigen om te kunnen overleven!"<br class="gmail_msg">
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