<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 November 2016 at 13:00, Stephen Worthington <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz" target="_blank">stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:32:53 -0700, you wrote:<br>
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>On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Stephen Worthington <<br>
><a href="mailto:stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz">stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Its an Nvidia bug, not Ubuntu - there have already been several<br>
>> threads on the list about it. If your Nvidia chip is recent enough,<br>
>> you can change to using the Nvidia 340 drivers which are still fine.<br>
>> The 304.132 drivers only work properly when run from root.<br>
>><br>
>> Correct, but also potentially wrong; this is a bit of a chimera.<br>
><br>
>While a vast majority of bugs are the result of Upstream code having<br>
>problems, "long term stable" releases should, in a portion of the<br>
>population's opinion, be held to a higher standard of testing before<br>
>release to the masses.<br>
><br>
>Granted, Nvidia code isn't quite as server-critical as a working Kernel, or<br>
>PHP with all the security patches and none of the feature bloat...<br>
>(a specific consideration 'stable' releases take, ABI does not change and<br>
>featureset is identical - one which I, and people like Charles Cazabon of<br>
>'getmail' notoriety, particularly take issue to, because if a feature<br>
>addition fixes a long standing bug and at the same time uses more secure<br>
>coding practices, is it really a bugfix, a security patch, or a feature<br>
>addition?)<br>
><br>
>That all said, while the MythTV population has now tested, reported bugs<br>
>with, and (hopefully) contributed the same bugs to Ubuntu, Ubuntu's own<br>
>testers could have a more structured methodology to verify VDPAU<br>
>acceleration as part of a release procedure. I don't own an Nvidia card so<br>
>I cannot propose such a methodology, but this is a potential.<br>
><br>
>If nobody yet has filed a bug on Ubuntu's tracker, now'd be a good time for<br>
>one of those who have tested to do such. As a community effort, discussion<br>
>and support is great, but the buck has to be passed up the foodchain until<br>
>someone in charge of packaging can fix it somehow.<br>
><br>
>Mike<br>
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</div></div>I filed a bug as soon as it happened to me, from the crash reporter,<br>
but it looks like nothing is being done at the Ubuntu end of things -<br>
people just seem to be waiting for Nvidia to release a fixed version.<br>
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<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/1639215" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/<wbr>mythbuntu/+bug/1639215</a><br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br><br></div></div></blockquote><div>Yes this is an upstream nvidia issue but as per one of the suggestions the packagers should have, created a fake version that rolls back to the previous release, although this probably would break any automated build scripts.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Anthony </div></div><br></div></div>