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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mythtv-users [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Greene<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 28, 2016 10:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion about MythTV<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mythtv-users] More DRM for Frontier FIOS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sadly, this won't get better with out a lot of folks cancelling service, and going public as to the reason why. <br><br>Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/AskFrontier">@AskFrontier</a>!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Kevin Wambsganz <<a href="mailto:wambs@verizon.net" target="_blank">wambs@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: mythtv-users [mailto:<a href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>] On Behalf<br>> Of Gary Buhrmaster<br>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:38 PM<br>> To: Discussion about MythTV<br>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] More DRM for Frontier FIOS<br>><br>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 5:27 PM, David Engel <<a href="mailto:david@istwok.net">david@istwok.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> > ... or channels that probably don't want to be restricted (shopping,<br>> > religioin, etc.).<br>><br>> In "major" markets, the shopping (and in some parts of the country, the<br>> religious) channels often lease a small part of the bandwidth of a<br>(usually)<br>> local independat broadcaster and then use "must carry" to force the cable<br>> company to add it to their offerings. Apparently there are enough people<br>> who are willing to send money to result in a positive return (and in some<br>> cases, it might make the local broadcaster able to keep the lights on).<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> mythtv-users mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users" target="_blank">http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</a><br>> <a href="http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette" target="_blank">http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette</a><br>> MythTV Forums: <a href="https://forum.mythtv.org" target="_blank">https://forum.mythtv.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi All,<br><br>Yes I too can confirm that Frontier has turn CCI to copy-once.<br>I'm on the phone with Frontier Communications right now.<br>I'm holding out no hope.<br><br>I guess I need to find another TV service.<br>My Cablecard will be useless.<br>I have a 2 HDHomeruns for OTA.<br>So, I guess I will be canceling my TV service soon.<br>Thanks Frontier!!!!!!!<br><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class=hoenzb>Kevin</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>mythtv-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users" target="_blank">http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</a><br><a href="http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette" target="_blank">http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette</a><br>MythTV Forums: <a href="https://forum.mythtv.org" target="_blank">https://forum.mythtv.org</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have sent an email to Dave Lieber “The Watchdog” from the Dallas Morning News.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Maybe he will place something in the newspaper.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have spent over an hour each time with Frontier support. They claim that they are doing nothing different with their cable TV channels streams.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>They keep wanting to send someone, $$$, to my house. I know that they have changed the settings, because I can log into my cablecard device and see it on the channels I’m trying to watch.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have an open source DVR system, <a href="http://www.mythtv.org">www.mythtv.org</a>, that I have used for 12 yrs now. First with DirectTV, then Verizon FIOS, and now Frontier.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It uses multiple sources of inputs for TV. I use two cable cards from Frontier, which stream 3 channels simultaneously. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This has saved me lots money, since renting the cable cards only cost $5 each. I guess from Frontiers point of view, it has saved me too much!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Now Frontier has disabled my ability to use the cablecards, because of an encryption feature that is activated on a per channel basis called CCI protection.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“</span><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#252525;background:white'>Copy Control Information</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#252525;background:white'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#252525;background:white'>(or CCI) is a two byte flag included in<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television" title="Digital television"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080;background:white;text-decoration:none'>digital television</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#252525;background:white'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#252525;background:white'>streams that allows content owners and cable operators to specify how content can be duplicated/used.”</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>By law, they (cable TV operators) are only required to broadcast freely (no CCI protection), for over the air stations (OTA), like WFAA. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>However, cable companies have abused the CCI protection, by encrypting all the stations they provide, even non premium stations, like history channel, SyFy, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This means that you can only watch cable TV on either their DVRs or a TIVO, locking down the market.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have complain about the this practice to the FCC website, but I don’t expect much help there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I called Texas PUC and that was a joke. They directed me to the US Gov FCC website. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m also going to post this on the mythtv forum. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for any help you can provide.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kevin Wambsganz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>