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    <p>I've been building 0.28 el6 and el7 for several months via an
      automated mock process and atrpms original specs.<br>
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    <p>its up to version 19 of 0.28</p>
    <p>scrpms.net/pub/RPMS</p>
    <p>Cheers</p>
    <p>Stephen<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/08/2016 2:00 AM, Rob Verduijn
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-20 15:45 GMT+02:00 Mike
            Perkins <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:mikep@randomtraveller.org.uk"
                target="_blank">mikep@randomtraveller.org.uk</a>></span>:<br>
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                <div class="h5">On 20/08/16 13:21, Rob Verduijn wrote:<br>
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                    Hi,<br>
                    <br>
                    I've also been running mythtv on centos 7 for some
                    time now.<br>
                    When 0.28 was released I was a bit miffed because
                    there was no repo that<br>
                    contained the rpm's available.<br>
                    Also the qt5 requirement was a bit of a challenge.<br>
                    <br>
                    I solved it by installing mythtv into a fedora 28
                    docker container on the<br>
                    centos 7.2 host.<br>
                    <br>
                    This solved a lot of problems for me.<br>
                    * quite a lot of rpms that in my view should not be
                    instaled on a server<br>
                    have been removed since they are installed in the
                    container (cleaner server<br>
                    config)<br>
                    * it's now in an isolated container again which
                    makes a far better security<br>
                    solution than running it directly on a server
                    backend<br>
                    * it's a lot easier to allow a container access to a
                    pci-card then to share<br>
                    it via passthrough to a vm ( most pci cards can't
                    deal with this including<br>
                    mine)<br>
                    * Rebuilding a docker container with a docker file
                    when there are updates<br>
                    is really easy.<br>
                    * the mariadb runs in a dedicated mariadb container.<br>
                    * cronjobs are started on the centos host with the
                    'container exec' command<br>
                    which runs them as the mythuser in the mythtvbackend
                    container.<br>
                    <br>
                    There are also drawbacks.<br>
                    * running mythtv setup is a pain but not impossible
                    (I created a dedicated<br>
                    container for this that I only build when needed
                    which is almost never)<br>
                    * database schema updates are a challenge too
                    (waiting for lock ends with a<br>
                    fail),<br>
                      for now I did a temporary mariadb install on my
                    frontend to deal with<br>
                    this (import old db from backend, upgrade, export
                    new db to backend)<br>
                      I removed it once this was done. I'm still
                    pondering what the best<br>
                    solution is for this (I'm tinking of merging it with
                    the mythsetup<br>
                    container)<br>
                    * it creates a rather large container<br>
                    * I still need to create a container for the mythweb
                    interface<br>
                    * Ofcourse this is complete f#@$-up of the container
                    principle, but it<br>
                    works for me :-) (and was a nice learing experience)<br>
                    <br>
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              Any chance you can write this up and add it to the wiki? I
              always thought that containers were essentially VMs but
              from what you say above this isn't exactly so.<br>
              <br>
              Alternative methods for building and/or using a mythtv
              system are always of interest, especially if it can lead
              to more efficient use of hardware.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
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                  -- <br>
                  <br>
                  Mike Perkins</font></span>
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        I really do not like editing wiki's<br>
        <div class="gmail_extra">But since I've been using mythtv for
          over a decade I think it's a fair suggestion.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">However, Like I said my container
          solution still needs work.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">So it will be a work in progress for
          some time.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Cheers<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Rob Verduijn<br>
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