<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 20, 2016, at 12:36 PM, John Veness <<a href="mailto:John.Veness.mythtv@pelago.org.uk" class="">John.Veness.mythtv@pelago.org.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">On August 20, 2016 5:00:32 PM GMT+01:00, James Abernathy <<a href="mailto:jfabernathy@outlook.com" class="">jfabernathy@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Aug 11, 2016, at 10:33 AM, James Abernathy<br class=""></blockquote><<a href="mailto:jfabernathy@outlook.com" class="">jfabernathy@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:44 AM, John Veness<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><<a href="mailto:John.Veness.mythtv@pelago.org.uk" class="">John.Veness.mythtv@pelago.org.uk</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:John.Veness.mythtv@pelago.org.uk" class="">mailto:John.Veness.mythtv@pelago.org.uk</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">On 11/08/2016 13:37, Jim Abernathy wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I know that Ubuntu 14.04.5 will be supported until 2019 and mythtv<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>0.28 works on it fine. Should I stick with it???<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Why I'm asking:<br class=""><br class="">I cannot get any version of 16.04.1 to properly display on any HDTV<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>in my house or through a A/V receiver on any computer. The screen goes<br class="">blank for 5-10 seconds depending on what is on the screen. There is<br class="">also video noise; random blank horizontal lines scattered on the<br class="">display. <br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">I don't have any issues with the same hardware on any version of<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>Ubuntu 14.04.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Since I need a mythtv frontend/backend and not just a backend, I<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>can't use 16.04 until this issue is fixed. I've tried posting the<br class="">graphic issue on the Ubuntu forum with no luck yet.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">So am I safe to continue on 14.04.5??<br class=""><br class="">Jim A<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">As you say, 14.04 will supported for a while yet, although you'll<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>need to do something in a couple of years' time.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">It would be interesting to know exactly what causes your issue in<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>16.04, though. You can install the 16.04 kernel in 14.04<br class="">(<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack" class="">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack</a><br class=""><<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack" class="">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack</a>>) and you could try<br class="">that to see if the same issue occurs, and easily roll back if it does.<br class="">Alternatively it could be a difference in the graphics drivers between<br class="">the two versions, which you could investigate.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I would like to solve this with 16.04 and may try your suggestion<br class=""></blockquote>about trying the 16.04 kernel in 14.04. I can run test, but I’m not<br class="">the guy to dig too deep on GFX issues. <br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Jim A<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I’ve found out that when you get to Mythbuntu 14.04.5 you have the same<br class="">issues as 16.04. I did a fresh install of Mythbuntu 14.04.5 and have<br class="">the same blanking issues as in 16.04. Seems Ubuntu brought the xorg<br class="">and kernel in line with the versions on 16.04 and that’s where the<br class="">problem is, I bet.<br class=""><br class="">Jim A<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Fresh installs of Ubuntu 14.04.5 (but not upgrades) use the "LTSEnablementStack" by default, i.e. the same kernel as 16.04. So that probably points to the problem. Not sure what to suggest to fix it.<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>To better understand this. I did a new fresh install of Mythbuntu 14.04.4 and then did the updates and dist-updates until It wanted no more updates.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I notices the following when I login via terminal session:</div><div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.2.0-42-generic x86_64)</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 16px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> * Documentation: <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/" class="">https://help.ubuntu.com/</a></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 16px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 16px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">WARNING: Security updates for your current Hardware Enablement</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">Stack ended on 2016-08-04:</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> * <a href="http://wiki.ubuntu.com/1404_HWE_EOL" class="">http://wiki.ubuntu.com/1404_HWE_EOL</a></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 16px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">There is a graphics stack installed on this system. An upgrade to a</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">configuration supported for the full lifetime of the LTS will become</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">available on 2016-07-21 and can be installed by running 'update-manager'</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">in the Dash.</span></div><p style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 16px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></p><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">Last login: Sun Aug 21 09:12:32 2016 from jamess-mbp-2.domain</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">jim@mythbuntu:~$ uname -rm</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">4.2.0-42-generic x86_64</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">It’s also running </span><span style="color: rgb(245, 245, 245); font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><a href="http://x.org" class="">X.Org</a> X Server 1.17.2</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">So I assume the kernel and X will remain at the level I need unless I choose the update mentioned above.</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">Jim A</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">John<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>