<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 20, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Rob Verduijn <<a href="mailto:rob.verduijn@gmail.com" class="">rob.verduijn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-20 13:14 GMT+02:00 Jim Abernathy <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jfabernathy@outlook.com" target="_blank" class="">jfabernathy@outlook.com</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br class="">
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On 08/20/2016 05:14 AM, John Pilkington wrote:<br class="">
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On 20/08/16 03:46, James Abernathy wrote:<br class="">
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Since I’m not getting anything figured out on Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS as far as a stable display on my monitor/TV, I’m testing other long-term solutions for my Mythtv system.<br class="">
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I installed Centos 7 today and got mythtv 0.27.4(v0.27-e4f65c8) working and the system and TV display are very stable. This solution is good until 2020 for full updates and 2024 for limited updates.<br class="">
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So my question is what about 0.28? Is that going to be supported on Centos 7?<br class="">
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I installed using the mythtv instructions for RHEL/Centos and then used the Mythtv Fedora instructions for configuration. It’s a little more work than Mythbuntu, but I figured it out. There was no mention of 0.28 in any of that information.<br class="">
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Jim A<br class="">
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I've been running 0.28-fixes under SL7 for some time, currently from a 'mock' rebuild under f23 of the rpmfusion srpm. I don't use a lot of the mythtv features on offer. The only changes I have noted are:<br class="">
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- for el7: replace python2-mysql by mysql-connector-python<br class="">
- remove frontend requirement for mesa-vdpau-drivers<br class="">
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and I imagine that the second wouldn't suit everyone.<br class="">
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I also have builds of 0.29-pre. The one for f23 runs well, but I haven't yet felt the need to install its equivalent on the SL7 box.<br class="">
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I have no idea what might eventually be available as packages for el7, but my build uses stuff from nux-dextop, which doesn't seem to be a particularly active repo.<br class="">
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John P<br class="">
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Thanks for your comments.<br class="">
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It looks like there is no perfect solution for me. I spend a lot of time getting my Mythtv system right then leaving it alone and just using it without a care for years. I'm in that time of rebuilding so I want to get it right.<br class="">
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Overall Ubuntu/mythbuntu 14.04 is the most stable for me right now and it's current enough to support the latest hardware I have and the oldest. Mythtv 0.27 with the features I use is the most stable.<br class="">
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I can't use Ubuntu 16.04 because it won't work on my TV/AV Receiver combo. (I think it's Xorg 1.18.3 related)<br class="">
I can't use Mythtv 0.28 because of the bug in mythtranscode that I reported a while back.<br class="">
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I can't rebuild for a year once the fall TV season starts. Right now there's nothing to record, so I can rebuild the system daily, at least until happy hour starts :-)<br class="">
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">Hi,<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">I've also been running mythtv on centos 7 for some time now.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">When 0.28 was released I was a bit miffed because there was no repo that contained the rpm's available.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">Also the qt5 requirement was a bit of a challenge.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">I solved it by installing mythtv into a fedora 28 docker container on the centos 7.2 host.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">This solved a lot of problems for me. <br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* quite a lot of rpms that in my view should not be instaled on a server have been removed since they are installed in the container (cleaner server config)<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* it's now in an isolated container again which makes a far better security solution than running it directly on a server backend<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* it's a lot easier to allow a container access to a pci-card then to share it via passthrough to a vm ( most pci cards can't deal with this including mine)<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* Rebuilding a docker container with a docker file when there are updates is really easy.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* the mariadb runs in a dedicated mariadb container.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* cronjobs are started on the centos host with the 'container exec' command which runs them as the mythuser in the mythtvbackend container.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">There are also drawbacks.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* running mythtv setup is a pain but not impossible (I created a dedicated container for this that I only build when needed which is almost never)<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* database schema updates are a challenge too (waiting for lock ends with a fail), <br class=""> for now I did a temporary mariadb install on my frontend to deal with this (import old db from backend, upgrade, export new db to backend)<br class=""> I removed it once this was done. I'm still pondering what the best solution is for this (I'm tinking of merging it with the mythsetup container)<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* it creates a rather large container<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* I still need to create a container for the mythweb interface<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">* Ofcourse this is complete f#@$-up of the container principle, but it works for me :-) (and was a nice learing experience)<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">Cheers<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rob Verduijn<br class=""></div></div>
____________</div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Thanks for your reply. However, I’d have to get a lot smarter to understand what you did. I’ve been in the Ubuntu world too long. I’m not sure what docker containers are.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>A while back I thought of building a version of linux with mythtv from source using a base recipe from the Yocto Project (embedded Linux). I’ve done Yocto before and it would never change unless I changed it. Not sure I have the patience anymore to attempt such a project.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Jim A</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">___________________________________<br class="">mythtv-users mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org" class="">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><br class="">http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users<br class="">http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette<br class="">MythTV Forums: https://forum.mythtv.org<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>