<div dir="ltr">MIKE:<br>Yep. Deleting all capture cards won't help. Once you have correctly<br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
defined your cards you shouldn't need to touch that menu option again.<br>
You must delete all video sources. </blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I have now done that.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Where you got the EIT entry I don't<br>
know, since I have never seen that on the sources screen and it wouldn't<br>
make sense anyway.<br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It was my user-defined name for it. As for "wouldn't make sense", well, it was the only thing that made sense to me, given that the first editable field besides the user-defined video source name was "listings grabber", for which my choice was EIT, and none of the other available fields said anything very interesting.<br><br></div><div>What is an example of a video source name that would make more sense?<br><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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A video source is the link between your capture card(s) and your list of<br>
channels.</blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hmmm... from the way things are presented in the setup, before hearing you speak I would have said these are the 5.input connections, not 4.video sources.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> It defines which channels are available and how you acquire<br>
them ie in your case tune them. (Other "capture cards" may in fact be<br>
Internet feeds or other methods of supplying input.)<br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am not sure I see how the fields in the video source screen say anything about how to tune to the channels.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Because of this the video source also defines the channels you can<br>
receive using the cards associated with it. That's why the scan options<br>
are under the source menu item, </blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am really puzzled now.<br></div><div>Under the video source menu item I do NOT have an option to scan anything.<br></div><div>I do, however, have such an option in the 5.input connections screen.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Are we talking at cross purposes?<br><br></div><div>I do not presume to know the "correct" names for things, but I am reading what I see in the backend setup program. <br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">but certainly for DVB-T you can also do<br>
scans from within the channel editor screen. You may get more options<br>
that way.<br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If I do the scan from the channel editor, the screen I get to looks the same to me.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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As I mentioned EIT is just a method of providing program info and is<br>
available on *all* transmission methods, except analog which is mostly<br>
obsolete anyway.<br>
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Oh, and remember that not all channels transmit 24/7. Some like CBBC and<br>
BBC3, BBC4 are part-time, which means that any scan may happen in a<br>
period when they are off-air. This can cause fun when scheduling<br>
subsequently...<br>
<br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>What should I do about that? First check that BBC4 is transmitting and then scan?<br></div><div> <br><br></div><div>Anyway:<br></div><div>this pm I deleted all video sources, redid the scan for both dvb-s and dvb-s2, and again I get several instances of each "channel" (in the tv sense, as in ITV HD), though apparently on different "channels" (in the satellite number sense, as in 20010).<br><br></div><div>If the satellite does offer several copies of, say, ITV HD on differently-numbered "channels" then I admit it kind of makes sense for myth to show them all as distinct items. On the other hand I would expect not to be the only person to have experienced that, and I would imagine it'd make sense for Myth also to have an option to collapse such duplicates into one (I mean all the "channels" with the same human-readable name, even if they have a different "channel" number).<br></div><div><br><br></div><div>JOHN:<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I've been keeping quiet because of my lack of DVB-S experience, but deleting ALL capture cards has been recommended almost ad nauseam here to remove channels that won't otherwise go away; perhaps it's only essential if you have several hostnames. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>By now I've deleted all cards AND all sources...<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> And AFAIR the name of the video source is user-defined and essentially arbitrary, so EIT ought to be valid purely as a mnemonic. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's what I had.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> But you would need more source names if you had say two dishes or two polarisations.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think I kind of get it.<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Do the multiple channel numbers define regional variations?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Some of them may (but then they are labelled as such, e.g. BBC 2 Wales...) but here I am talking of several channels with distinct numbers but identical human-readable name.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The options on exit from Mythtvsetup might be better as:<br>
<br>
'Would you like to re-edit your settings?'<br>
<br>
'Yes' / 'No, try them as they are'<br>
<br>
with optional extra civility.<span><font color="#888888"></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, that would be more in tune with what the options actually do.<br> <br></div></div></div></div></div>