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<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 10/03/2015 5:58 AM, Simon Waldman wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 8 March 2015 at 21:53, Simon Waldman <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:lists@firecloud.org.uk" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:lists@firecloud.org.uk">lists@firecloud.org.uk</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>If I type "sudo hibernate" at a terminal, it works. If I use the menu within Mythwelcome and select "Shutdown now", it works. But if I let the idle timer count to zero, it gets as far as stopping the backend service and then nothing further happens - visibly, or in the Hibernate log.<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>So, I've been trying to think about what could be different between selecting "shutdown now" in Mythwelcome, and letting the idle timer count down. There's one possibly that occurs; perhaps those who know could confirm or deny it?<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Is it possible that, despite being configured through MythWelcome, the shutdown command when the machine is idle actually comes from mythbackend?<BR></DIV>
<DIV>In that case, the hibernate script would presumably be a child process of mythbackend, so when it stops mythbackend, it would itself be killed.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>That makes some sense, if it's true. Is it?<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks :-)<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_signature>Simon Waldman<BR><A href="mailto:swaldman@firecloud.org.uk" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:swaldman@firecloud.org.uk">swaldman@firecloud.org.uk</A></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>Easy to test your theory. Have your backend hibernate script spawn a background task that does the hibernation.<BR><BR><BR>I had the same problem with suspend, as soon as the backend stopped, the suspend process was also killed. The following resolved this.</DIV>
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