<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><br><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">Hoi James,<br><br>Sunday, January 25, 2015, 7:24:49 PM, you wrote:<br><br>>> ><br>>> >> I'm using MythTV 0.27, looking at the list of recordings in the<br>>> >> frontend, XBMC and MythWeb all show the recording times properly.<br>>> >> I<br>>> >> am in timezone UTC -10 and the backend is running on OpenSuse 13.1<br>>> >> with the OS timezone set to Pacific/Honolulu (UTC -10), and<br>>> >> everything else running on the system represents time/date<br>>> >> correctly.<br>>> ><br>>> >> However, viewing recordings on my Playstation 3 via UPnP lists the<br>>> >> recording times in UTC, that is, they are 10 hours in the future.<br>>> >> For example, a show recorded at 7pm on Tuesday displays on the PS3<br>>> >> with a recording time of 5am Wednesday. So sorting by date has all<br>>> >> the primetime shows under the folder for day after they were<br>>> >> recorded, which confuses most of the family. This seems to only<br>>> >> happen with UPnP clients.<br>>> ><br>>> >> What should I be looking for to make the recording times display<br>>> >> correctly to UPnP clients?<br>>> ><br>>> >> Mahalo!<br>>> ><br>>> > I guess it's up to the receiver (your playstation) to translate UTC<br>>> > to<br>>> > local time. So again I guess your playstation doesn't support<br>>> > timezones or it is not set.<br>>> ><br>>> > Thanks for the reply, but I'm pretty sure the DLNA renderer is not<br>>> > the problem. I recently upgraded my mythbackend hardware and<br>>> > mythtv from 0.24 to 0.27 and the old backend worked perfectly with<br>>> > this same PS3 DLNA renderer, the dates displayed correctly. I<br>>> > didn't start seeing the dates 10 hours in the future until I<br>>> > switched to the new backend, so I'm pretty sure it's happening on<br>>> > the backend but am just not seeing any timezone setting that I've<br>>> > failed to set properly so was hoping to find a clue from somebody<br>>> > on this list.<br>>> ><br>>> Yeah, but wasn't 0.24 /before/ we began storing times in UTC? That<br>>> would explain<br>>> what you see. It just concealed the problem.<br><br>>> --<br><br>>> Mike Perkins<br><br>> Thanks for the reply! <br><br>> I didn't notice that mythtv used to store times as local and not<br>> UTC, sorry. But I still don't see why this would be the DLNA<br>> renderer's fault. mythbackend applies the timezone when serving<br>> content to XBMC and mythfrontend so the times all display correctly,<br>> is there really no way to do this for uPnP/DLNA? Most DLNA renderers<br>> are very minimal and simply display what they are served. Is<br>> localizing time really the responsibility of the renderer? That seems weird to me.<br><br>> If time used to be stored as local, then the problem simply didn't<br>> exist before, there was no problem to conceal since it was returned<br>> correctly in all cases. By changing it to be stored as UTC, a<br>> problem like this is introduced where the time can be returned to a<br>> UI without being localized. This effectively makes using DLNA much<br>> less useful when I have to ask family members to mentally use UTC when browsing for recordings.<br><br>Have you checked if you can set a timezone in your player(s). Most do<br>so they can adjust between summer and winter times.<br><br>Actually this way is more logical to me. It's more universal and<br>leaves it up to the receiver to chose.<br><br>Tot mails,<br> Hika mailto:hikavdh@gmail.com<br><br>"Zonder hoop kun je niet leven<br>Zonder leven is er geen hoop<br>Het eeuwige dilemma<br>Zeker als je hoop moet vernietigen om te kunnen overleven!"<br><br>De lerende Mens<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>mythtv-users mailing list<br>mythtv-users@mythtv.org<br>http://lists.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users<br>http://wiki.mythtv.org/Mailing_List_etiquette<br>MythTV Forums: https://forum.mythtv.org<br></blockquote>Yes, it's a Playstation 3 and has the timezone set correctly. When I have time to look at the code maybe I can make it apply the offset for DLNA clients only to work around the issue. Thanks again!</div></body></html>