<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 November 2014 01:05, Michael T. Dean <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mtdean@thirdcontact.com" target="_blank">mtdean@thirdcontact.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 11/05/2014 09:49 PM, Chuck Peters wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Packages" target="_blank">https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/<u></u>Packages</a> shows Debian packages are available<br>
for MythTV. However the packages are not officially part of Debian [1],<br>
and the site which was advertised as Debian Multimedia is known to break<br>
libraries for Debian users [2].<br>
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The MythTV packages page shows the Debian logo and definitely left me<br>
with the impression that it was officially part of Debian. It was a<br>
trademark violation and the site owner was asked by Debian's project<br>
leader Stefano Zacchiroli in 2012 to change the domain name. I would<br>
like to see it corrected on MythTV's site. [3]<br>
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1. <a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2012-May/026678.html" target="_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.<u></u>org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-<u></u>maintainers/2012-May/026678.<u></u>html</a><br>
2. <a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2012-April/025867.html" target="_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.<u></u>org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-<u></u>maintainers/2012-April/025867.<u></u>html</a><br>
3. <a href="https://www.debian.org/trademark" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/<u></u>trademark</a><br>
When You Can Use the Debian Trademarks Without Asking Permission<br>
1. You can use Debian trademarks to make true factual statements about Debian or communicate compatibility with your product truthfully.<br>
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I updated the page, changing the text of the site name from the old "Debian Multimedia" to the new "deb-multimedia" that the site owner used, and added the words "unofficial packages" so that it's clear that they're not blessed by systemd, er, I mean Debian. I left the logo in place because that logo indicates that the packages are created for Debian--not to mention the fact that <a href="http://deb-multimedia.org/" target="_blank">http://deb-multimedia.org/</a> still uses the Debian logo (see the site icon - <a href="http://deb-multimedia.org/favicon.ico" target="_blank">http://deb-multimedia.org/<u></u>favicon.ico</a> ).<span class=""><br>
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I have more questions like Why isn't MythTV in the<br>
official Debian archives yet<br>
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AIUI, originally MythTV could not be an official Debian package because MythTV requires ffmpeg, including requiring certain parts of ffmpeg (including CODECs) that may be in violation of patents and/or copyrights in some parts of the world, meaning that a MythTV package would be in violation of Debian's ethos. Now that Debian seems to have changed their view on ethics, inclusion of MythTV should be no more difficult than inclusion of MPlayer or xine. (That said, my interpretation of the official Debian Social Contract and the Debian Free Software Guidelines and the Debian Position on Software Patents is that none of them should be allowed to be officially hosted in the Debian repository, even in the non-free area. IMHO, if they can't host libdvdcss--due to patent/licensing violation--they shouldn't be able to host any software that decodes MP3 and MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 and ..., but hey, I'm no lawyer.)<br>
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Mike<div class=""><div class="h5"><br>
<br></div></div></blockquote><div>Hi Mike,<br><br></div><div>may also want to update the Mythdora entry as this has been retired However "The mirrors are still live and updates available" upto version 0.25 I believe (dont think there have been any updates since then) </div></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Cheers,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Anthony<br></div></div>