<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Thomas Mashos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thomas@mashos.com" target="_blank">thomas@mashos.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:49 AM, John P Poet <<a href="mailto:jppoet@gmail.com">jppoet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Thomas Mashos <<a href="mailto:thomas@mashos.com">thomas@mashos.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:05 AM, John P Poet <<a href="mailto:jppoet@gmail.com">jppoet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Jean-Yves Avenard <<a href="mailto:jyavenard@gmail.com">jyavenard@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
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>> >> On 27 March 2014 21:24, Jan Schneider <<a href="mailto:jan@horde.org">jan@horde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> >> > <a href="http://imgur.com/WLJUaQn" target="_blank">http://imgur.com/WLJUaQn</a><br>
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>> >> Weird, the date here is showing as 27/5 that's it.. not a full date<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > mythfrontend -> Setup -> Appearance -> (3rd page) Date Format<br>
>> ><br>
>> > That is one of the few settings the user is still allowed to make, that<br>
>> > themers have to account for. Believe it or not, but I actually wish the<br>
>> > user had a little more control of the UI appearance, even though it<br>
>> > would<br>
>> > make theming that much harder.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > John<br>
>><br>
>> I'm not sure I agree with this. If I've got to account for that, it<br>
>> means I have to account for the largest value (something like<br>
>> "Wednesday, December 31st, 2288"). If I do that, there isn't much<br>
>> space left on the screen for anything else (that would probably be a<br>
>> larger field than title, which would be silly).<br>
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> One of the reasons I ended up writing Steppes, was because there was not a<br>
> *single* theme which presented all the data I wanted to see, in the way I<br>
> wanted to see it. If everyone agreed that they liked a single presentation,<br>
> then there would only be one theme, and we would not have the choices that<br>
> we do ;-)<br>
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> I personally have my date format set to "DoW YYYY-MM-DD". It does not<br>
> really take up that much room, but it does take more room than mosts themes<br>
> allow for. In Steppes, the page heading (or page title) can overlap the<br>
> date, but even with the longest date format and the longest page heading<br>
> they do not -- if English is the language. It might happen, though, with a<br>
> language like Russian. One of the biggest challenges was trying to use a<br>
> large enough font that it could be read from across the room, but still have<br>
> enough room to allow Greek translated labels to still fit in their "areas".<br>
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And that doesn't look like a huge waste of space if I'm using MM/DD?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I use <minsize>20,100%</minsize> as part of the background shape, so that it will auto-adjust its size to however wide the date/time text is. This keeps it from looking unbalanced.</div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">><br>
> Stuart has been tinkering with creating a theme which uses icons wherever<br>
> possible, to solve the problem with allowing enough area for 'labels'.<br>
> Icons are universal, so you don't have to worry about how long the<br>
> translation is going to be in another language.<br>
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I'm not sure this will help. I don't believe we have labels in any of<br>
the areas were talking about.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Right, I was just throwing this out there for discussion. This is all really a tangent to this email thread, and I apologize for instigating it. I personally hate it when threads go off-topic, and there I go doing it myself.</div>
<div><br></div><div>BTW, I do like where you are going with the mythbuntu theme. For a brief period of time it lost its way, but it is coming back nicely now. It is one of the better themes out there. </div><div><br></div>
<div>John</div></div></div></div>