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<body><div><< Vague "It doesn't work" queries don't generally solicit much response as there's too little context/information to go on.<br></div>
<div>Specific queries in separate threads (with logs) will generally get you much more help. >><br></div>
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<div>Sorry, I was being as specific as I know/knew how to be. As for logs, sorry, there are many of them, as of yet I have little idea which contains what which is relevant to what.<br></div>
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<div><< So I'm guessing you're setting up fresh 0.27 installs for a separate
backend (somewhere) and a remote frontend (on your "main PC"). >><br></div>
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<div>Yes<br></div>
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<div><< Do you also have a frontend on the backend machine (aka combined
frontend/backend) ? That would be useful for diagnosing where your
problem lies. If so, is that working properly ? >><br></div>
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<div>Yes, and it certainly seems to be, although that PC has no working sound (and I have no real interest in it having sound).<br></div>
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<div>I generally use SSH and VNC to connect to and use the backend, this allows me to configure, schedule and watch (in a very subomtimal way) any recorded TV.<br></div>
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<div><<<br></div>
<div>Where is this error from? The mythfilldatabase log would be useful. But searching "mythfilldatabase error 2" led me to <a href="http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/mythtvnz/2012-June/012849.html">http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/mythtvnz/2012-June/012849.html</a><br></div>
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<div>Are you sure xmltv is configured properly ? <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Uk_xmltv">http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Uk_xmltv</a> >><br></div>
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<div>OK, that appears to have moved me forward, in so much as I now have two XML files that match my video sources, except I'm slightly confused as they are located in my /.mythtv folder rather than the /home/mythtv/.mythtv folder where I would have expected them to live (since the backend logs in as "mythtv" I believe).<br></div>
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<div>Also during the configuration of these sources I get these errors:<br></div>
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<div>"XMLTV channel 'border.itv1.itv.co.uk' (25) not seen on RT site<br></div>
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<div>Use of uninitialized value $chan_name in pattern match (m//) at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 690.<br></div>
<div>Use of uninitialized value $chan_id_to_name{"border.itv1.itv.co.uk"} in uc at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 697.<br></div>
<div>Use of uninitialized value $chan_id_to_name{"border.itv1.itv.co.uk"} in uc at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 697.<br></div>
<div>Use of uninitialized value $chan_id_to_name{"border.itv1.itv.co.uk"} in uc at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 697.<br></div>
<div>Use of uninitialized value $chan_id_to_name{"border.itv1.itv.co.uk"} in uc at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 697.<br></div>
<div>Use of uninitialized value $chan_id_to_name{"border.itv1.itv.co.uk"} in uc at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 697.<br></div>
<div>Use of uninitialized value $chan_id_to_name{"border.itv1.itv.co.uk"} in uc at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 697.<br></div>
<div>Use of uninitialized value $chan_id_to_name{"border.itv1.itv.co.uk"} in uc at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 697.<br></div>
<div>no 'id' attribute in channel at /usr/share/perl5/XMLTV.pm line 2345."<br></div>
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<div>I have no idea if this is important or not.<br></div>
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<div>But as of right now, I still only have 8 days of scheduling data which I always had from the on-air schedules anyway.<br></div>
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<div><< <<I've installed the frontend on my main PC, but it kept installing the backend as well, I had to go into Myth-Control-Centre to explicitly switch to Frontend only,>><br></div>
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<div>More
details on your installation method needed. I thought the Mythbuntu ISO
explicitly asks for the requested configuration. The frontend packages
from aptitude also shouldn't drag in the backend AFAIU. MCC suggests it
thought you wanted a combined frontend/backend (the default) >><br></div>
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<div>"sudo apt-get mythfrontend install" was the installation method.<br></div>
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<div>I had to use MCC to get rid of the backend that dragged in with it.<br></div>
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<div><< The answer will lie in your logs, once you know how
to interpret them. Post the mythbackend.log and the remote FE's
mythfrontend.log in a new thread using pastebinit and someone will
quickly diagnose the problem.<br></div>
<div><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Posting_Logs#Posting_Logs_to_the_Mailing_List_or_IRC">http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Posting_Logs#Posting_Logs_to_the_Mailing_List_or_IRC >></a><br></div>
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<div>OK Thanks<br></div>
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<div>----- Original message -----<br></div>
<div>From: Roger Siddons <<a href="mailto:dizygotheca@ntlworld.com">dizygotheca@ntlworld.com</a>><br></div>
<div>To: Discussion about MythTV <<a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a>><br></div>
<div>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Really frustrated trying setup MythTV<br></div>
<div>Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:57:19 -0000<br></div>
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<div>Vague "It doesn't work" queries don't generally solicit much response as there's too little context/information to go on.<br></div>
<div>Specific queries in separate threads (with logs) will generally get you much more help.<br></div>
<div> </div>
<div>So I'm guessing you're setting up fresh 0.27 installs for a separate backend (somewhere) and a remote frontend (on your "main PC"). Do you also have a frontend on the backend machine (aka combined frontend/backend) ? That would be useful for diagnosing where your problem lies. If so, is that working properly ?<br></div>
<div> </div>
<div>I haven't configured the stock Mythbuntu for some time and haven't yet updated to 0.27 but hopefully can help you decompose your problems to get the answers you need.<br></div>
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<div>On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 23:07:15 -0000, Jason Ward <JasonFWard@gmail.com> wrote:<br></div>
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<div>> So, despite 3 years more experience of Linux under my belt, I still find<br></div>
<div>> MythTV bizarrely hard to setup.<br></div>
<div>><br></div>
<div>> I won't go into the trials and tribulations I've been through to get<br></div>
<div>> where I currently am, but it has been a long and frustrating road.<br></div>
<div>><br></div>
<div>> Right now, as best as I can tell my back end is not downloading<br></div>
<div>> schedules from The Radio Times, no idea why, I just see that "error 2"<br></div>
<div>> was reported. Although schedules off the air appear to be working fine.<br></div>
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<div> </div>
<div>Where is this error from? The mythfilldatabase log would be useful. But searching "mythfilldatabase error 2" led me to <a href="http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/mythtvnz/2012-June/012849.html">http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/mythtvnz/2012-June/012849.html</a><br></div>
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<div>Are you sure xmltv is configured properly ? <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Uk_xmltv">http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Uk_xmltv</a><br></div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>><br></div>
<div>> I have questions about DVB-T and DVB-T2 tuners in the same backend, does<br></div>
<div>> the fact that one of the turners sees more channels than the other mean<br></div>
<div>> that I need to have 2 separate video sources, one for each type of<br></div>
<div>> tuner?<br></div>
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<div>Many answers lie in the archives once you've figured out the right terminology. I don't use HD myself but found this<br></div>
<div><a href="http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/548763?do=post_view_threaded#548763">http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/548763?do=post_view_threaded#548763</a><br></div>
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<div>> Having installed the back end via fresh downloaded Mythbuntu ISO and use<br></div>
<div>> Myth-Control-Centre to switch to v0.27 is there a reason that Ubuntu<br></div>
<div>> Update Manager refuses to do the upgrade needed and I have install<br></div>
<div>> aptitude and manually force the upgrade to happen?<br></div>
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<div>AFAIU Update Manager only does 'updates' and not 'upgrades', which are potentially much more destructive. Having MCC start an upgrade is probably undesirable. It's only necessary when changing Myth versions - I'm mildly surprised there isn't a 0.27 ISO out yet.<br></div>
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<div>FWIW I agree with Zig. Selectively upgrading a single package (as in the Askubuntu link you posted) is a solution when you don't wish to change an otherwise stable system. But if you're doing a fresh install then a full upgrade won't break anything; is safer; and may prevent future trouble/frustration later on.<br></div>
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<div>><br></div>
<div>> I've installed the frontend on my main PC, but it kept installing the<br></div>
<div>> backend as well, I had to go into Myth-Control-Centre to explicitly<br></div>
<div>> switch to Frontend only,<br></div>
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<div> </div>
<div>More details on your installation method needed. I thought the Mythbuntu ISO explicitly asks for the requested configuration. The frontend packages from aptitude also shouldn't drag in the backend AFAIU. MCC suggests it thought you wanted a combined frontend/backend (the default)<br></div>
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<div>> I can apparently connect to the backend with<br></div>
<div>> credentials asked for when the front end first runs, but I can see no<br></div>
<div>> data from the backend and I keep getting a an error overlay telling me<br></div>
<div>> that "mythcontext" could not contact the master backend.<br></div>
<div>><br></div>
<div>> I have no idea what mythcontext is, how its setup or what it does, and<br></div>
<div>> Googling for information just led me to source code.<br></div>
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<div>The answer will lie in your logs, once you know how to interpret them. Post the mythbackend.log and the remote FE's mythfrontend.log in a new thread using pastebinit and someone will quickly diagnose the problem.<br></div>
<div><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Posting_Logs"></a><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Posting_Logs#Posting_Logs_to_the_Mailing_List_or_IRC">http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Posting_Logs#Posting_Logs_to_the_Mailing_List_or_IRC</a><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Posting_Logs"></a><br></div>
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<div>><br></div>
<div>> All I want is have a frontend that I point at the backend and have just<br></div>
<div>> work, can someone give me any help with this task?<br></div>
<div>><br></div>
<div>> Sorry guys and gals that I'm sure work hard and invest much time into<br></div>
<div>> MythTV, much as I know its a great system when it works, but I'm very<br></div>
<div>> frustrated after many hours of trying to make MythTV work it seems to me<br></div>
<div>> to be temperamental (it seems to work then it doesn't), needlessly<br></div>
<div>> delicate (little changes cause unrelated parts to fall over) and<br></div>
<div>> unrelentingly complex to setup. If I had the skills myself, or the<br></div>
<div>> money to pay for someone else’s skills, I would I would be investing<br></div>
<div>> into the "just make it work" category.<br></div>
<div>><br></div>
<div>> Jason<br></div>
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