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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/17/13 4:51 PM, Matt S. wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Matt
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                    <div class="im">On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:10 PM,
                      jedi <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                          <div>On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 09:25:51PM -0500,
                            Phil Bridges wrote:<br>
                            &gt; On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Eric
                            Sharkey &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            wrote:<br>
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                            &gt; &gt; On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM,
                            Matt S. &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:skd5aner@gmail.com"
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                            wrote:<br>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt; to have something on<br>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt; in the background while you
                            get the kids ready for school.<br>
                            &gt; &gt;<br>
                            &gt; &gt; This is a completely alien concept
                            to me.<br>
                            &gt; &gt;<br>
                            &gt; &gt; I'm either watching TV or not
                            watching TV. &nbsp;I've never understood the<br>
                            &gt; &gt; desire to have something on "in
                            the background".<br>
                            &gt; &gt;<br>
                            &gt; &gt; As far as I'm concerned, LiveTV
                            could easily be re-labeled "Tuner Testing".<br>
                            &gt; &gt;<br>
                            &gt; &gt; Eric<br>
                            &gt;<br>
                            &gt;<br>
                            &gt; It's a good thing it's not your
                            decision :)<br>
                            &gt;<br>
                            &gt; It's really cool how whenever somebody
                            has a question about LiveTV, the<br>
                            &gt; "you're using it wrong" crowd comes
                            out.<br>
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                        &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah. I think that crowd goes by another
                        name... "the developers".<br>
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                    <div>Sure, many of them don't use it regularly...
                      there's also several developers who value live TV,
                      and have put many hours in to it to make it a very
                      usable feature over the last several releases.&nbsp; In
                      fact, several new Live TV enhancements have
                      already been commit to master and some of them
                      even backported to 0.27.&nbsp; The code for Live TV is
                      quite complex - if they didn't think it was worth
                      it, it would have been ripped out years ago so
                      they could focus exclusively on other stuff.<br>
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                      In fact, a few key developers think it's silly
                      every time this "debate" comes up and use it
                      themselves - as do I.&nbsp; No one is forcing you to
                      use live tv, ever.&nbsp; I don't know why this always
                      turns in to something reminiscent of a political
                      or religious debate.&nbsp; <br>
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                      People who use TV aren't "using it wrong" -
                      they're just "using it".&nbsp; Yes, that may be
                      different than the way you use it, but what good
                      does it do to ridicule?&nbsp; What's next, people who
                      make phone calls on smart phones are "doing it
                      wrong" because they should only use Text Messaging
                      or Email so they always "time-shit" their
                      conversations? :P<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Also, just wanted to mention that I
          just watched Live TV for the last 2 hours as we had a a
          handful of tornado's come through our state as I spent some
          quality time in our basement with my family while the tornado
          sirens blared outside.&nbsp; I figured real-time storm coverage was
          better than setting up several manual recording rules on the
          fly for the next few hours (for shows that were being
          interrupted with non-stop storm coverage for 4+ hours now),
          and then watching time-shifted Doppler radar of a storm that
          was moving at 50-80MPH.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">I suppose there's still people that
          would probably suggest I was "doing it wrong". :-/<br>
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    Ohio?<br>
    Most of my inlaws are offline right now for that reason.<br>
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