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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andréas Kühne<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion about MythTV<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mythtv-users] 0.27 Frontend for Windows<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2013/10/9 Mike Carron <<a href="mailto:jmcarron@starstream.net" target="_blank">jmcarron@starstream.net</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org" target="_blank">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org" target="_blank">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andréas Kühne<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 8, 2013 11:27 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>To:</b> Discussion about MythTV<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mythtv-users] 0.27 Frontend for Windows<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>2013/10/9 Mike Carron <<a href="mailto:jmcarron@starstream.net" target="_blank">jmcarron@starstream.net</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org" target="_blank">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org" target="_blank">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>] On Behalf Of Raymond Wagner<br>Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 4:09 AM<br>To: Discussion about MythTV<br>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] 0.27 Frontend for Windows<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>On 10/4/2013 12:50 AM, Mike Carron wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p>> Where can I find one?<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Windows#Unofficial_Windows_Pre-Builds" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Windows#Unofficial_Windows_Pre-Builds</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>If none are listed there, you'll have to build MythTV yourself.<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p>**<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>That statement may well be true but I suspect you will agree it is a bit cavalier. I don’t do builds anymore, my last one was in the early 1980s. My programming and developing days are far behind me and I’m just looking for a system that allows me to eliminate WMC. I thought I had one.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>I had a system where my backend was 0.25-fixes, my Mythtv frontend was 0.25 running on Windows and my two low power (Zotac ZBOX AD03 running XBMC (OpenELEC 3.2). I followed the advice to upgrade my backend to 0.27 which I did, installing it on a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 13.04.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>My new backend is running perfectly and I have fair control over it with MythWeb. My MythTV frontend is gone because the 0.25 frontend will not communicate with the 0.27 backend and there is no 0.27 frontend for Windows. My XBMC boxes are gone because their cmyth add-on evidently cannot communicate with the 0.27 backend. I installed MythTV frontends on Xubuntu on those boxes and they connect just fine to the backend but they cannot deliver HD video, with the video completely unable to keep up with the stream.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>I guess I will start over in the morning, hopefully I will still be able to find a repository with 0.25 on it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#888888'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#888888'>mike</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>mythtv-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org" target="_blank">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><br><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users" target="_blank">http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mike,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I feel your pain, sorry to hear that you have had problems upgrading. However the xubuntu boxes should be able to keep up with HD video, they aren't running only with Wifi are they?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Just a heads up that if you don't have a backup of the database for 0.25, you won't be able to downgrade because a 0.25 backend won't be able to read a 0.27 database. There were pretty big changes to the database in 0.26 and to downgrade from there would be a pain in the ....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Andréas<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>**</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>Andreas,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>The xubuntu boxes are hard wired through a gigabyte switch so that isn’t the problem. I suspect it is a driver issue.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>Fortunately I don’t have a large enough database yet to really worry about it so I will start over with a fresh install of Ubuntu server on a clean system disk. I’m hoping the Ubuntu repositories still have 0.25…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'> </span><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>mike</span><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>mythtv-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><br><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users" target="_blank">http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Ok,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Then you should be sorted. What you can do as well is run the 0.26 version. I am running 0.26, the only reason I haven't upgraded yet is because there isn't a client for windows in 0.27, however I have found one for 0.26. I am also running XBMC on my linux laptop, and it can connect to 0.26 without any problems. So my tip to you would be to download mythbuntu and run it with the 0.26 repos enabled. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andréas<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>**<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>Thanks Andreas, evidently the default version in the Ubuntu repositories is now 0.26 so that is what I installed even though I’m still nervous about the lossless transcode issue. The new backend is running fine even though it does not start on boot, I have to manually start it, but that’s something I’ll deal with.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>My big problem is that unlike all previous versions, the 0.26 backend does not receive the stream from the HDHomerun Prime. If I start a live tv show from XBMC I get the “working” notice until it times out. When a recording starts, the file size is shown as B (on Mythweb). In both cases I can see from my HDHomerun utility that the correct tuner has tuned the correct channel but no data stream is being delivered. This has never happened to me as long as I have been working with MythTV. I checked the logs (none are attached because I’m writing this from a Windows machine that doesn’t know how to access files from the Ubuntu server yet) and couldn’t see anything useful. All log files except mythev_setup.log and mythbackend.log were null and in those the only thing resembling an error was “unable to connect#012Database error was #012Access denied for user ‘mythtv’…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>I did manage to find an 0.26 frontend for Windows but the download server was far more interested in selling me something than in actually delivering a download so I aborted it after an hour.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>I guess I need to be more determined to find a repository with 0.25 backend in it. I haven’t tried adding mythbuntu/0.25 to my repository list yet but I guess that’s where I go in the morning. I guess at some point in my 75 years I have been more frustrated than I am right now but I sure don’t remember when.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#44546A'>mike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>