<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:39 PM, John Morris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jmorris@beau.org" target="_blank">jmorris@beau.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 00:34 -0400, Ian Evans wrote:<br>
> The missus bought a DVD of a 2002 TV movie she likes and I tossed it in the<br>
> Myth box so we could watch it. A bit of conversation that was hard to<br>
> understand had us reaching for the remote to turn on the subtitles. There<br>
> was nothing, though the CC's were listed on the DVD case.<br>
<br>
</div>I'm guessing it doesn't have a subtitle track, only the older Closed<br>
Captions embedded in the video signal from when the film was first<br>
mastered for airing on TV. Try it in a DVD player and use the closed<br>
caption button on your TV. Hint: Closed Captions aren't delivered over<br>
HDMI, only an analog connection. Yes a lot of new DVD & BD gear label<br>
the button captions but captions and subtitles are entirely different<br>
critters. Most DVDs will copy the CC info into a subtitle track during<br>
mastering, but there isn't any rule requiring it.<br>
<br>
Creating or reproducing Closed Captions require payments to the<br>
government granted monopoly entity (National Captioning Institute in the<br>
US) holding the mark, subtitles don't. Despite that legality Myth will<br>
read captions from TV if the capture device grabs them. All of the<br>
digital (ATSC, QAM, HDHR Prime) tuners appear to do it. Can't really<br>
say whether the Myth DVD player does, I'm still on 0.25 and DVD playback<br>
is too unstable for serious use.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Very weird though that makemkv would detect a subtitle channel. Guess I'll post on their forum. Thanks for your detailed info. <br></div></div></div></div>