Thanks Jim,<br /><br /> On my system, I had the subtitle zoom way up at over 160% when I experienced the problem. We're getting older and it cost too much eye strain to read them from a distance on our old 32" set. As tyou suggested, this is probably also affected by resolution as we didn't notice the problem at 720p, but then there was plenty of other stuttering due to non-matching refresh rates, so we might not have noticed anyway.<br /><br />At 1080p, the zoom was massive and unnecessary. I have it at 120% now and there is no problem at all, as well as the subtitles taking up much less screen-estate. I did wonder whether there is more of a problem when the subtitles overlay the actual image. On 2.39:1 material, the text appears solely below the image letterbox.<br /><br />Thanks for your continued interest in the problem.<br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />Marius<br /><br />On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 22:41 CEST, Jim Stichnoth <stichnot@gmail.com>
; wrote:<br /> <blockquote><div>On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Jim Stichnoth <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:stichnot@gmail.com">stichnot@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<div><div><blockquote><div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">It does take longer to render larger subtitles, hence the difference you see with subtitle zoom. It also gets a lot worse when you use outlinesize. The way things are implemented in MythUI, if your outlinesize is N, the outline is created by drawing 8N separate copies of the text. (This is the number of pixels in the perimeter of a square with edge length 2N+1.) It may not be quite this bad, though, if the MythUI image cache is getting involved. If I had thought about this earlier, I would have advised caution with using outlinesize.</span></div><div><div><div> </div><div>FWIW, for post-0.27 I'm looking into ways of spreading the subtitle work across multiple video frames to lessen the possibility of s
tuttering.</div><div> </div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div>I spent a little more time investigating the performance. Using outlinesize indeed seems to have a linear impact on drawing time. But surprisingly, on my system, there was a vast performance difference between 100% and 150% subtitle zoom factor. (Those were the only two zoom factors I tried.) A zoom of 150% was 15 to 25 times as expensive to draw as 100%, even though in theory there are only 2.25 times as many pixels to draw. My only guess is that certain (expensive) hints in the TrueType description were only applied for higher point sizes. This would presumably depend on the font (MythTV-supplied FreeMono in my case) and the display resolution (1600x900 in my case). There are probably other aspects of the system and of the MythTV configuration that come into play as well.</div><div> </div><div>Jim</div></div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />