<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Ronald Frazier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ron@ronfrazier.net" target="_blank">ron@ronfrazier.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">>> DF: For right now, I think you will only be able to seek if you kick off the<br>
>> live stream and then pause it for a bit. This is because we kick off the<br>
>> live steam transcode on demand. It is not queued up or stored except for<br>
>> the life span of watching the video. So when the video ends, and you<br>
>> navigate back, another command is sent to the backend which terminates the<br>
>> live stream transcode and deletes all the temporary files created.<br>
><br>
> That's inconvenient (though I understand it's entirely out of your<br>
> control). The problem is when playback aborts (either through error,<br>
> disconnection, or intentionally), there's no way to jump back into the<br>
> middle of things.<br>
<br>
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</div>FYI: I was just playing around with another android app (MythTV Go).<br>
For playback, I actually like the way it handles things. In particular<br>
<br>
1) When streaming begins, it provides a progress update so that you<br>
can see (to a limited degree) that something is actually happening and<br>
you are getting closer to playback, rather than not knowing if it's<br>
just hung (which happens on occasion).<br>
2) When exiting playback, it asks you if you want to delete or keep<br>
the transcoded files on the backend.<br>
3) If you choose to keep them, then the next time you go to play that<br>
file, playback begins instantly with no delay at all. Also, while MX<br>
player will take you right back to the beginning, I found that Dice<br>
Player will actually resume right where you left off.<br>
<br>
It seems to me that a nice way to handle things (if you can figure out<br>
all the right things to do with the API and it's all possible) might<br>
be that, when you pick a show, rather just launching it you could<br>
bring up a page with more info about the show. There you could have<br>
links to play it now, or start transcoding in the background. If<br>
transcoding in the background, you could show the progress. Actually<br>
now that I think about it (maybe I should have done that before I<br>
started typing), you could (if you wanted to get a little fancier)<br>
show the progress on the menu next to each show name. Something like a<br>
pie graph where the red slice is percent not transcoded and the green<br>
slice is percent transcoded. Then you could choose to only watch shows<br>
once they are completely transcoded.<br>
<br>
Also, if I'm starting to understand this streaming stuff a little<br>
better, I suspect a user could setup their backend to automatically<br>
start the HLS transcoding as soon as recording is complete. This way,<br>
for shows you know you are likely to watch from android you can have<br>
them pretranscoded. If you then put the little indicators right on the<br>
menu, it would be easier to see which programs are ready to be<br>
watched.<br>
<br>
Sorry if there are too many ideas here and in my other posts. Don't<br>
mean to overwhelm you with stuff. :-)<br>
<br>
Just curious, are you developing this on your own, or are other people helping?<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
--<br>
Ron Frazier<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br>Ronald,<div><br></div><div>These are really great ideas. Some we have thought of, but a bunch we haven't. Could you do me a favor and put them into enhancement requests on our issues page on github:</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/MythTV-Clients/MythTV-Android-Frontend/issues">https://github.com/MythTV-Clients/MythTV-Android-Frontend/issues</a></div><div><br></div><div>You should be able to mark them as enhancements. This would be a big help.</div>
<div><br></div><div>There are currently 4 of us working on the app. A lot has gone into making the MythTV Services API available as standalone Java library. It is now available in Maven Central for anyone to use.</div><div>
<br></div><div>I really appreciate your feedback.</div><div><br></div><div>Btw, I have been working what you are saying about when the stream ends and such. Have had little success, however.<br clear="all"><div><br></div>
<div>Dan</div><div><br></div>-- <br><a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/dmfrey" target="_blank">My Google Profile</a><br><br>
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