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Again, notifying the user and letting them /choose/ to exit Live TV and watch the in-progress/previously-<u></u>recorded version of the episode would be a good thing. But it needs to be a conscious decision the user makes and not some "I'll just force you out of Live TV" approach. And, FWIW, reserving a tuner but not using it is a waste. And, yes, with that statement, I'm *also* implying that Live TV itself is, by definition, a waste (because it reserves a tuner and potentially records something that's already being recorded)... :) There's no way to make Live TV not be a waste because the implied contract of control involves wasting resources on Live TV. (Thus my--possibly over-the-top--distaste for Live TV.)</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Reserving a tuner is far less wasteful than recording two copies of the same program... additionally, it can potentially free that tuner for use in the event that the system needs it (with appropriate prompting to the user, as livetv does now).</div>
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Or more importantly, why should a user /Care/ about tuners? When they<br>
hit Watch TV, it should just work and let them view either of the<br>
currently recording programmes, or something else from those mux. There<br>
shouldn't really be a need to tell the user that a tuner isn't available.<br>
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That's exactly how it works now (in 0.25+), with the exception of informing them of/letting them easily switch to recorded episodes. (Note that you /can/ switch to recorded episodes through the OSD Menu, but with current MythTV you would have to know to do that.)<br>
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Users are never told that tuners aren't available. They're only told if a channel they're trying to tune isn't available (and only if it's not possible to tune it anywhere).</blockquote><div><br></div>
<div>I think I would much rather tear up the livetv one-tuner-per-user contract... with the way that myth will now happily switch between tuners, the contract has already been broken anyway. </div><div><br></div><div>Users should care about tuners... they are the key to this whole system and the user should be aware that the system can only record a limited number of things at a time. If I try to tune to a channel that is unavailable, I would rather get a message saying "no available tuner can tune the selected channel"... its far less confusing then your channel not changing at all.</div>
<div><br></div><div>When watching livetv, you should in reality be jumping from one in progress recording to another... if you select a show that is not being recorded, a new recording rule (with appropriate priority) is created that says "record any show on this channel until I say stop" and lets the system select any tuner it wants to meet that rule. (could even shuffle the tuners during show transitions if it wants). If the same channel appears in multiple sources, it should switch sources based on priorities... for example, I have two QAM tuners with 3 virtual channels each, and a Prime with only 3 tuners (no virtual). I would much rather my system use the QAM tuners whenever a channel is available there and leave the Prime free for those channels that only it is capable of tuning.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The only other limitation that livetv should place on the system is that if mythtv tries to use the last remaining tuner capable of tuning the channel you are <u>currently watching</u>; you should be prompted that the system would like to "interrupt recording of this channel to support the recording of XXXX" and provide you the option to allow it... it shouldn't dump you to the menu if the recording your watching still has time remaining.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I suppose, like Mike, I feel that "live tv" shouldn't exist in it's current form... replace it with instant ondemand recording rules... leave the backend to manage the tuners because if mythtv does one thing well, it's optimizing its use of hardware.<br>
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