Nick,<div><br></div><div>Thats excellent news!</div><div><br></div><div>I'm nore than happy to test when its released. Will it support EIT fr those channels that do not have XMLTV data?</div><div><br></div><div>Chris<br>
</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Nick Morrott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:knowledgejunkie@gmail.com">knowledgejunkie@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 9 April 2012 17:30, Richard Morton <<a href="mailto:richard.e.morton@gmail.com">richard.e.morton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On 9 April 2012 16:57, Chris Lewis <<a href="mailto:chrislewis915@gmail.com">chrislewis915@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi<br>
>><br>
>> After another channel scan of 28.2E after the latest shuffle of channels i<br>
>> find myself again in the position where i have multiple copies of some<br>
>> channels (some don't seem to work, some are regional etc) and I have spenyy<br>
>> hours yet again getting the channel numbers correct.<br>
>><br>
>> What do other UK users out there do? It would seem to me some king of sql<br>
>> script to update the channel name and number (including call sign and<br>
>> XMLTVID where required) is the best way to go.<br>
>><br>
>> Now I've seen <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/UK_Channel_Assignments" target="_blank">http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/UK_Channel_Assignments</a> and the<br>
>> scripts there but they dont cover the entire range of FTA channels from what<br>
>> i can see. What i was thinking is that after a full scan a script could<br>
>> scrape the required SID and channel data from lyngsat or somewhere and<br>
>> produce an update script that would rename and number the channels based on<br>
>> this. I'm not suggesting this be implemented in Myth but a script n the wiki<br>
>> would be great.<br>
>><br>
>> I e-mailed the lyngsat webmaster address a while ago but never got a<br>
>> reply.<br>
>><br>
>> I would consider trying to do this properly myself but my skills a just<br>
>> not up to it. I'd obviously be prepared to test any script and would shout<br>
>> at all if it trashed my channel listings as its basically trashed already<br>
>> IMO.<br>
>><br>
>> So, what do other UK DVB-S/S2 users use? As currently my recording<br>
>> schedules are not working correctly. For instance if i set 'Eastenders' to<br>
>> be recorded at any time on any channel for SWMBO then it tries to record one<br>
>> copy of each of the BBC one channels despite the name and subtext looking<br>
>> identical to me.<br>
><br>
</div></div><div class="im">> I believe that this sort of things has been considered before however there<br>
> are no simple solutions.<br>
><br>
> You need to tie the radio times feed to the lyngsat/kingofsat information.<br>
> neither provide an easily parse-able feed of information and I havent looked<br>
> but I guess that it wouldnt be within the terms of service. You would have<br>
> to strip the information out of the HTML on the website (scraping) which is<br>
> probably not with the TOS as mentioned and each time they changed their site<br>
> slightly the code would need tweaking.<br>
><br>
> after that include all the regional variations, numbering, especially in<br>
> combination with requirements with selective channel inclusion, Freeview,<br>
> Sky and Virgin Media and you get an endless number of variations...<br>
><br>
> Feel free to roll up your sleeves; but this is not as easy as it sounds.<br>
<br>
</div>I've been working on a solution for this for a while and am almost<br>
ready to push the code/lineups to XMLTV CVS for testing. I will also<br>
make available a third-party tool for MythTV to handle<br>
updating/maintaining video sources and channel configuration for this<br>
exact situation. Enthusiastic testers will be required in due course<br>
to both test the grabber and the MythTV update tool.<br>
<br>
In testing I have lineups (this is what the working title of this new<br>
feature/capability in XMLTV is called) for the following UK/Irish TV<br>
platforms:<br>
<br>
freesat<br>
freesatfromsky<br>
freesathd<br>
freeview<br>
freeviewhd<br>
saorview<br>
sky<br>
skyhd<br>
upcireland<br>
upcirelandhd<br>
virgin<br>
virginhd<br>
<br>
<br>
These lineups capture the EPG numbering, XMLTV IDs (where available)<br>
and DVB onid/sid information (for digital lineups) for each platform<br>
and should ensure that it is a straightforward process to reconfigure<br>
a video source after a rescan. It also means that configuring a video<br>
source for an STB-based input (like Sky or Virgin) using XMLTV will<br>
take a couple of seconds to create from scratch.<br>
<br>
Note that for DVB-T (Freeview), I only have access to the Sutton<br>
Coldfield transmitter so would welcome volunteers to provide me with<br>
up-to-date channels.conf output from (dvb)scan for other areas of the<br>
country. This should allow for the matching of regionalised channels<br>
such as BBC1/2 and ITV1 and S4C by onid/sid rather than just the<br>
transmitted DVB name (which can be used as a fallback). If anyone<br>
knows of a resource that lists all regional sids around the country<br>
for Freeview, please let me know. Freesat does not suffer from the<br>
same problem as everyone receives all regional channels.<br>
<br>
Because these lineups will be used internally by the tv_grab_uk_rt<br>
grabber I will want to keep them in sync with what's available on each<br>
service's EPG. This should mean that once configured to use a lineup*,<br>
the uk_rt grabber will always provide data for channels available on<br>
the platform, rather than just the list of channels configured<br>
initially. This will also mean that a user does not need to keep<br>
adding/removing channels from their XMLTV configuration whenever a new<br>
channel launches or an old one is turned off. Lineups do not include<br>
full tuning information, so an app using the information (such as<br>
MythTV) will need to (re-)scan digital channels before the lineups can<br>
be applied. Additionally, whilst these lineups will be used by the<br>
uk_rt grabber, they could equally be used by third-party tools.<br>
<br>
I also have support to allow a user to select which subscription<br>
packages/channels are received in addition to FTA/FTV channels on<br>
platforms such as Virgin and Sky. During configuration the grabber<br>
also asks for country/postcode location info to determine which<br>
regional channels to include. The end result of this process is a<br>
filtered list of channels that can either be used by the grabber for<br>
listings retrieval or output as a region-specific XML lineup (a subset<br>
of the complete "master" lineup) for use outside the grabber.<br>
<br>
(*) the option to manually configure channels will still be there<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Nick<br>
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