<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 September 2011 17:45, Lawrence Rust <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lvr@softsystem.co.uk">lvr@softsystem.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 16:29 +0100, Tim Draper wrote:<br>
> we need better and more reliable DSL for this to work. another forum<br>
> im on is discussing a similar thing (well, general dsl reliability)<br>
> and i brought up internet TV. i hate the idea of IPTV. i only get 5meg<br>
> dsl (limited by exchange distance), so i doubt it'd be able to handle<br>
> broadcast video along with general internet browsing.<br>
<br>
</div>5 Mb/s should be ample to view most iPlayer streams. The Beeb suggest<br>
at least 2 Mb/s but in practice the streams average around 1.5 Mb/s or<br>
less. Many programs are offered at a higher definition which require<br>
>=5 Mb/s. The standard definition streams are much lower quality than<br>
off-air SD.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>that wasnt very well worded. what i ment is i currently get 5meg, but if i were start 'multitasking' on the same line, then it would start to become problematic. 5meg was an 'at best' speed. i sync around 5.3meg. reality is more around 450kb/s download.<br>
yes - enough for most of what iplayer/4od offer and as per other replies, i am on the better end of the scale, speed-wise, but far from being able to reliably support broadcast-quality streams if other people are using the line.<br>
<br>weirdly, it's slowly been going up since i moved into this house 3 years ago; started off with 3meg.<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
My ADSL connection averages around 8 Mb/s and generally easily supports<br>
an iPlayer streams plus basic browsing. However, there are occasional<br>
high latencies which can result in start/stopping if encountered during<br>
the early seconds of playback before the buffer is well filled. It's<br>
not perfect yet.<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div>thats another 'problem'. i do game which as most people know, is highly susceptible to other line activity. fair enough, that's the nature of latency/throughput reliant services though.<br>
again, QOS would work around this, but does take a while to configure, especially when you haven't implemented it in practice yet. maybe i need to setup another ipcop router....<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">
> QOS enabled router (or a QOS proxy) would also be highly beneficial so<br>
> it doesn't knock out the rest of your network.<br>
<br>
</div>Agreed. Many xDSL modems with integrated VOIP provide QoS but AFAIK<br>
there's no generic client side protocol to set it up. UPnP would be the<br>
way.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> atleast with download files, you can download overnight and play it<br>
> during the day.<br>
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