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    On 09/07/11 14:06, Dave Brown wrote:
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 1:49 PM, John Reid
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                On 09/07/11 13:33, John Reid wrote:
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                  On 09/07/11 11:51, John Reid wrote:
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                    On 09/07/11 11:24, Paul Wootton wrote:
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                        <div>On 9 Jul 2011, at 11:17, John Reid wrote:</div>
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                            On 09/07/11 11:03, Paul Wootton wrote:
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                                <div>On 9 Jul 2011, at 10:25, John Reid
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                                    On 09/07/11 06:40, Phill Edwards
                                    wrote:
                                    <blockquote type="cite">I've set my
                                      MythTV up so that it shuts down
                                      when not in use. Recently it<br>
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                                          stopped shutting down. The
                                          countdown goes from 60 seconds
                                          to 10<br>
                                          seconds but then resets back
                                          to 60 instead of turning off.
                                          A tail of<br>
                                          mythwelcome.log looks like
                                          this:<br>
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                                      Apologies if this is a bit too
                                      obvious, but have you checked that
                                      the menu item isn't set to "Lock
                                      Shutdown" (or something like that)
                                      in the mythwelcome screen? Perhaps
                                      someone accidentally set it.<br>
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                                    I did check that. You don't get the
                                    countdown if you've locked it.<br>
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                                    Any help appreciated. I don't really
                                    know where to investigate next. What
                                    are the <br>
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                                    <pre>2011-07-08 14:48:29.421 MythWelcome received a SCHEDULE_CHANGE event
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                                    Could the schedule change events be
                                    relevant to this?<br>
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                                    Thanks,<br>
                                    John.<br>
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                              <div>Have ypu turned on eit scanning on
                                any of the channels? &nbsp;I have a backend
                                that won't shutdown, and I think it's
                                because I'm using eit for my sources.</div>
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                              <div>-- Paul --</div>
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                            Yes I am using EIT for my sources. That's
                            just what I got working when I first
                            installed mythtv. I'm in London, UK. Is
                            there a xmltv source I could use that might
                            be better?<br>
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                            So the schedule change event might be an
                            update from EIT that's stalling the
                            shutdown?<br>
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                            John.<br>
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                      |That's my best guess - at the moment I'm OK with
                      running eit and not shutting down the backend; but
                      I want to check out xmltv soon-ish.</blockquote>
                    I'm having a go now. I'll let you know if it fixes
                    it.</blockquote>
                  OK I've tried the xmltv option. I didn't delete the
                  EIT source yet, perhaps I should. Now it still doesn't
                  shut down properly but mythwelcome.log has different
                  entries...<br>
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                  2011-07-09 13:19:07.030 Locking input devices<br>
                  2011-07-09 13:19:07.596 Unlocking input devices<br>
                  2011-07-09 13:20:08.648 MythWelcome received a
                  SHUTDOWN_NOW event<br>
                  2011-07-09 13:22:10.686 MythWelcome received a
                  SHUTDOWN_NOW event<br>
                  2011-07-09 13:24:12.728 MythWelcome received a
                  SHUTDOWN_NOW event<br>
                  2011-07-09 13:26:14.264 MythWelcome received a
                  SHUTDOWN_NOW event<br>
                  2011-07-09 13:28:16.703 MythWelcome received a
                  SHUTDOWN_NOW event<br>
                  2011-07-09 13:30:17.645 MythWelcome received a
                  SHUTDOWN_NOW event<br>
                  2011-07-09 13:32:19.586 MythWelcome received a
                  SHUTDOWN_NOW event<br>
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                  Again, any help appreciated....<br>
                  <br>
                  John.</blockquote>
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            OK deleting the EIT source didn't help but I think I worked
            out my problem...<br>
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            I found this in my mythbackend.log (should have looked in
            there earlier):<br>
            <br>
            2011-07-09 13:43:22.744 CheckShutdownServer returned - OK to
            shutdown<br>
            2011-07-09 13:43:22.802 Running the command to set the next
            scheduled wakeup time :-<br>
            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mythshutdown
            --setwakeup 2011-07-09T15:30:00<br>
            2011-07-09 13:43:22.946 Running the command to shutdown this
            computer :-<br>
            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mythshutdown
            --shutdown<br>
            sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified<br>
            sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified<br>
            2011-07-09 13:44:22.758 Waited more than 60 seconds for
            shutdown to complete - resetting idle time<br>
            <br>
            Has something changed so that mythshutdown now uses sudo to
            shut down mythtv? I don't really want to have to enter a
            password to shut the box down.<br>
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      What do you have in your /etc/sudoers file<br>
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      sounds like you might need to setup sudo to allow it to run
      mythshutdown <br>
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      %mythtv ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown, /bin/sh,
      /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh, /usr/bin/mythshutdown<br>
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      replace mythtv with user you use to run mythshutdown<br>
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      There is a guide on the wiki to setup mythwelcome and
      mythshutdown, Ive had to follow it again after an ugprade in the
      past.&nbsp; It might be worth going through it again.<br>
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      Hope this helps
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    It certainly does help. I just figured this out on my own and came
    back to post it.<br>
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    Thanks,<br>
    John.<br>
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