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> From: <a class="reify-linkifier" href="mailto:beww@beww.org">beww@beww.org</a><br>> To: <a class="reify-linkifier" href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><br>> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:48:46 -0700<br>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Google TV HDMI Input<br>> <br>> On Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:35:26 pm Greg Oliver wrote:<br>> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Brian Wood <<a class="reify-linkifier" href="mailto:beww@beww.org">beww@beww.org</a>> wrote:<br>> > > On Wednesday, November 17, 2010 09:44:04 am Raymond Wagner wrote:<br>> > >> There _are_ HDMI capture cards. BlackMagic makes a PCIe x1 card<br>> > >> that runs around $80. However you will not find one that will<br>> > >> touch anything with HDCP.<br>> > > <br>> > > Not for $80 you won't, but an HDFury outputting to an HD-PVR would<br>> > > do it, theoretically of course, or so I have heard.<br>> > <br>> > This thread got me searching for a bit, and it seems there are now<br>> > quite a few black boxes out there that strip hdcp and output hdmi.<br>> > They are in the same price range as a (v2 or v3) fury as well ~200..<br>> > The fury's get pretty bad reviews on sync and color issues (although<br>> > I have personally never seen one in action). I would really like to<br>> > get rid of all of the cable mess with the hdpvr though, so these 4<br>> > hdmi in, 1 hdmi out boxes for ~275 look very appealing (especially<br>> > since they have remotes to control input to be controlled by lirc)..<br>> > Match that to a hdmi cap card and viola! If only there were some<br>> > with drivers and compression :)<br>> <br>> The HDFurys and similar devices are seen as "pirate tools" by many, in <br>> fact I was a little hesitant to even mention them here.<br>> <br>> But there are plenty of legitimate uses for capturing HDMI video, in <br>> particular in the education field.<br>> <br>> Since there are so many devices available, I'd think that HDCP is no <br>> longer an "effective" protection scheme. This is especially true since <br>> the master key for HDCP is now "in the wild", and Intel admits it is in <br>> fact what it purports to be.<br>> <br>> Of course IANAL.<br>> <br>> There are devices available that output analog component, as well as <br>> HDCP-stripped HDMI, which could be used with standard component input <br>> capture devices.<br>> <br>> The analog hole will be closed eventually, but people's rights will <br>> remain.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> mythtv-users mailing list<br>> <a class="reify-linkifier" href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><br>> <a class="reify-linkifier" href="http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users">http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</a><br><div><br></div><div>Who sees the HDFury and similar devices as "pirate tools" (besides the big media companies)?</div>                                            </body>
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