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On 7/21/2010 6:53 PM, MarcT wrote:
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p><span style="color: black;">Robert
how about the show that
initiated this whole conversation?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color: black;">MarcT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I got a response from Tribune:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="271144214-22072010"><font
color="#000080" face="Arial" size="2">The original episode was created
as a standard without the season/episode information. Once we obtained
that, editorial did not realize there was already an episode present
and created a new one with the season/episode info. The bad episode is
being removed from our database today.</font></span></div>
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See simple... it really comes down to how complicated Tribune's job is
because content providers don't always provide accurate info. <br>
<br>
There have been threads about this in the past, but when we looked into
a listing solution that turned into SD, we were shocked at how
needlessly complicated the whole TV listing business is. Content
providers and stations have the power to fix it, but simply aren't
interested. TMS and Rovi make good money because of it :)<br>
<br>
Feel free to contact SD to report issues like this. Please try and do
some vetting to prevent false positives. If you want to automate
things (like scanning CC listings, and alerting for a 90%+ hit) contact
me and I can facilitate automatic reporting. TMS has shown support for
anything that improves the quality of their data.<br>
<br>
Speaking of data quality, if you guys haven't noticed, there have been
significant improvements to "The Daily Show" listings over the past
year. It is much, much better and that's due to hard work, automated
tools, and cooperation between TMS and SD. (if you don't mind me
tooting my own horn, and if you do.. @$%@!$# :) )<br>
<br>
Robert<br>
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