<div class="gmail_quote">2009/11/13 Robert McNamara <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robert.mcnamara@gmail.com" target="_blank">robert.mcnamara@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
<div>On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:00 PM, sylvain brejeon<br>
<<a href="mailto:sylvain.brejeon@gmail.com" target="_blank">sylvain.brejeon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> 2009/11/13 Nick Rout <<a href="mailto:nick.rout@gmail.com" target="_blank">nick.rout@gmail.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> >> Or if it's a dedicated FE, no window manager at all.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Every time I suggest it at least one person tells me that it won't<br>
>> >> work.<br>
>> >> But I have been running this way since 0.19 and it's always been<br>
>> >> absolutely hiccup free in terms of window placement and focus.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Dedicated FEs, IMHO and experience don't need a WM.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > It won't work.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > MythTV itself uses multiple windows.<br>
>><br>
>> Is that new in 0.22? I always understood that no WM was needed if you<br>
>> weren't shelling out other programs like mplayer/xine etc. (Not that I<br>
>> have ever tried)<br>
><br>
> It does work. I also run the FE without any WM. I only start X.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>Please don't top post on this list. Again, just because the parts of<br>
Myth that *you* use in myth work without a WM does not mean that all<br>
of Myth does. Running ratpoison (a few hundred k in memory) will NOT<br>
impact performance. At all. People who won't run the simplest of<br>
window managers because they think it provides a "performance<br>
improvement" can feel free to break their setups-- but suggesting that<br>
others do so is not helpful, and it would be really appreciated if you<br>
didn't do so.<br>
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Robert</font></blockquote><div><br><br>I apologize for top posting. </div><div><br></div><div>The wiki says:</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">"First you should know that you can run the plain <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythFrontend" title="MythFrontend" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">MythFrontend</a> <i>without</i> a window manager. Though if you want to start external programs, like Xine or MPlayer from <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo" title="MythVideo" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">MythVideo</a>, you will need one to get the new window visible."</span></div>
<div><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Window_Managers">http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Window_Managers</a> </div><div><br></div><div>So I guess it isn't completely helpless to make a WM-less suggestion.</div><div><br></div>
<div>Now if you want to use external players you have to add a dependency on a WM. That's ok with me.</div><div><br></div><div>but is the standalone FE also dependent of a WM?</div><div><br></div><div>and in that case, what parts may I miss?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thank you</div><div>Regards<br> <br></div></div><br>