On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Mike Perkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikep@randomtraveller.org.uk">mikep@randomtraveller.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">Simon Hobson wrote:<br>
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Douglas Mackay wrote:<br>
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> You're not the only one !<br>
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> It's not helped when Digital UK post lies on their website :<br>
> <a href="http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/when_do_i_switch/granada/winter_hill" target="_blank">http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/when_do_i_switch/granada/winter_hill</a><br>
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"If you have ... freesat on all of your TV sets you will not be affected by<br>
switchover."<br>
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That in my book is an outright lie - this week they've moved/re-organised<br>
two muxes, and in December they'll move some more. If they think moving<br>
muxes so you have to retune counts as "not affected", then it makes you<br>
wonder at teh mentality of the people managing this.<br>
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Sorry maybe I'm missing something how is freesat anything to do with<br>
freeview? (freesat is a satellite service which as the text you've<br>
quoted states will not be affected by the terrestrial digital switch<br>
over)<br>
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Doh - teach me to read more carefully :-/ Yes you are completely correct, for some reason my mind just read that as "freeview" <slaps head>.<br>
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Still darned frustrating - being in the Granada region, the local news has of course been full of it in the run up. However, amongst all the hype, at no point was it mentioned (that I recognised) that freeview users would need to retune yet again. All the coverage seemed to be aimed at the non-digital people - "you'll be losing BBC2 on Wednesday".<br>
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Well guess what I'll be doing for a couple of hours tomorrow - I've a friend with three sets to retune. It's not the retuning, it's the "put the channels in something resembling sanity order" that takes time. I've even printed out a sheet with the channels and numbers I want (my own set is a right pain to re-number channels on).<br>
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Curiously, once I'd isolated the transports which my local transmitter actually uses, got rid of the others I can pick up but don't want, and *rescanned each transport individually*, all my Freeview channels came out with the right channel numbers already assigned. YMMV.<br>
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(I found it was then necessary to run the following SQL:<br>
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update channel set freqid = channum;<br>
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because the freqid - which is used to change channels - was not set to something useful. In all cases, channum had been generated as chanid + 1000.)<br>
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Mike Perkins</font><div><div></div><br clear="all"></div></blockquote><div><br>A rescan will use the standard Freeview LCN (Logical Chanel Numbers) scheme.<br>
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Andrew <br></div></div><br><br>