On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Kevin Kuphal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kkuphal@gmail.com">kkuphal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><br>No one is denying Jean's work. I think it's great. But don't expect
the -devs to support every backport of a development feature to a
stable revision. The people that want this should know plain and
simply in no uncertain terms that what they're running is outside the
scope of MythTV. And this isn't "my stance" in any official capacity.
I'm just saying that I get why the ticket was closed and why it
shouldn't have needed a big explanation. Jean knew what he was doing
and I'm sure he did it all with the best of intentions. It just wasn't
the proper place for tracking issues with his patch.</div></div></blockquote><div><br>Big explanation? Sure, but how about some explanation?<br><br>Jean, I (for one) salute you! Thank you for your efforts. I saw the original post before anybody had a chance to reply and I thought...Oh boy, this is going to cause s sh*t storm (despite the fact that you took great pains to make your intentions clear). I agree with people who are scratching their heads asking "what kind of open source project is this?".<br>
<br>To me the issue is much more about the relationship with the community.<br><br>I've never seen anybody show anything but the utmost respect for developers (although I'm sure there are cases, but they are IMHO a minority) and yet users seem to be often treated as ungrateful whiners. It is certainly my impression that the developer group here has a
certain degree of contempt for the users (or even the more casual developers)
and that is unfortunate. Closing Jean's ticket without any
explanation? Who acts that way? Now, is this contempt real? I don't
know. If not, it makes the perception all the more sad.<br><br>One final note...this thread has gotten so long that people aren't reading the whole thing. Jean never implied that the developers should incorporate his changes into the code base. So please stop accusing him of that. The only thing he wanted was a single ticket in the Trac site to help him keep track of issues related to his self-proclaimed unofficial patch.<br>
</div><div><br>--<br>Mike<br> <br></div></div><br>