<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 1:47 PM, j w <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jraymyth@gmail.com">jraymyth@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Brian Wood <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:beww@beww.org" target="_blank">beww@beww.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Saturday 27 December 2008 10:34:51 Greg Woods wrote:<br>> On Sat, 2008-12-27 at 08:20 -0700, Brian Wood wrote:<br>> > If you happpen to know anyone on the same cable system who owns a new-ish<br>
> > TV set with a clear QAM tuner (a common feature), you might be able to<br>> > determine what channels are unencrypted.<br>> ><br>> > I'd go with this sort of empirical evidence, rather then the word of a<br>
> > "tech" who may not have the best info, or even understand it.<br>><br>> I strongly second this. While I don't think as many of the customer<br>> service people are morons as is commonly believed, the training they do<br>
> have applies to the environment that the vast majority of their<br>> customers live in.<br><br></div>I found this on the net, since it specifically includes a response from T/W I<br>thought it might be relevant:<br>
<br><a href="http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/248819" target="_blank">http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/248819</a><br><br>I agree that not all CATV CSRs are morons. Most of them are well-meaning<br>folks, but they are totally dependant on their employer for "training".<br>
<br>Certainly they are not going to trained to assist folks in obtaining<br>programming without renting a STB.<br><br>Also possibly relevant, a lawsuit about the forced renting of STBs:<br><br><a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/27/046235" target="_blank">http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/27/046235</a><br>
<font color="#888888"><br><br>--<br>beww<br><a href="mailto:beww@beww.org" target="_blank">beww@beww.org</a><br></font>
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</div></div><div>Okay guys. Thank you for the suggestions. I will go and buy a 1250, trot my myth across the street to my neighbors with a digital feed and see what happens. If the channels are scrambled, then there would not be much use in purchasing a 2250 when they are supported, would there?</div>
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<br></blockquote></div><br>I found this to be pretty helpful in determining what channels are available in my area. It has not let me down yet...<br><a href="http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels">http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels</a><br>