<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Michael T. Dean <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mtdean@thirdcontact.com">mtdean@thirdcontact.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On 10/09/2008 09:58 PM, Steve Hodge wrote:<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Kevin Kuphal wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Um, this page:<br>
>> <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInfo" target="_blank">http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInfo</a><br>
>><br>
>> where you sign up for the list, points to the gossamer-threads archive<br>
>> quite clearly.<br>
> For anyone else having trouble (it took me a couple of minutes and the use<br>
> of Firefox's Page Info function), the links are the words "here".<br>
<br>
</div>More specifically, the link is the word, "here," in the sentence, "Go<br>
here for a searchable mailing list archive."<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
> The fact<br>
> that they are almost the same colour as the normal text makes it difficult<br>
> to see them as links, at least on my laptop. For some reason the other links<br>
> on the page (in the same colour) aren't so hard to see.<br>
<br>
</div>Yeah, unfortunately, you have to read the words--instead of just looking<br>
at the pretty colors--to get the information off the page. ;)<br>
</blockquote><div><br>Reading helps, of course. But if you don't notice the slightly different colour of the "here" it's easy to assume that "here" refers to the link at the start of the line - the link to the mailman list signup page. That page has a link right near the top to the pipermail archive so I can see how someone might follow that and then think the pipermail archive was all there is. It's clearer for the user list (without the "go") though. Would it be easy to put a link to the gossamer archive on the mailman signup page along with the pipermail archive link?<br>
</div></div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
And, no, I don't mind when people bring up the same ideas over and over,<br>
as long as they realize that an idea without code is just an idea.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes. I don't see the harm in people talking about features they would like to see provided they don't harass the devs about them. I don't think the "submit a patch" response adds anything to the discussion though. It tends to put people on the defensive because it can appear as if it's discounting the idea (i.e. people can take it as "the only way this is getting in is if you do it yourself"). And it doesn't really encourage people to actually get involved either as it can come across as "if you're not capable of making the patch then you should shut up". It just seems a little hostile really. What I'd like to see instead of just "submit a patch" is something like "this sounds easy/hard/impossible, but you could start looking at AClass/BPlugin/CLibrary code if you want to implement it".<br>
<br>Cheers,<br>Steve<br></div></div>