<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/7/28 Nick Morrott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:knowledgejunkie@gmail.com">knowledgejunkie@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On 28/07/2008, Ian Clark <<a href="mailto:mrrooster@gmail.com">mrrooster@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> 2008/7/28 Nick Morrott <<a href="mailto:knowledgejunkie@gmail.com">knowledgejunkie@gmail.com</a>><br>
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</div>i) IANAL, so take this with a pinch of salt.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>It's the internet, I take /everything/ with a pince of salt. :) <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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ii) As I understand things, VirginMedia own the network, and by<br>
extension also the cable that comes into your/your landlord's<br>
property, and you are not allowed to connect unauthorised equipment to<br>
their cable network, whether or not you are a current VM subscriber.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>This is where I'm not sure, as I understand it there is an explicit act that covers the public telephone system, which is why it's illegal to connect unathorised equipment to a BT phoneline (stuff without that green sticker on the bottom.) but does this cover any network of this nature?<br>
<br>Mind you I'd accept that this may have changed a bit. (eg, up until recently it wasn't illegal to trespass in the UK, I'd imagine it was much the same thing.)<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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iii) 'Because it is there' and 'because someone else has done it' are<br>
not adequate legal defences (yet).<br>
</blockquote><div><br>It would depend on the circumstances, if you end up infront of a jury they can find you innocent for whatever reason they see fit. (In the UK at least, I know not about other countries out there.) <br>
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iv) The RF connectors are likely there because prevous subscribers<br>
could receive analogue TV through the incoming cable, in addition to<br>
their VM feeds which required decoding.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>No, the RF connectors are added when the STB is removed, if a STB was installed that was connected via an F connector, an additional lead was occasionally used so you could get ntl stb feed /and/ the standard RF signals, but in this case the adaptor wouldn't be required, an extra lead was. (I've been a ntl/virgin analog cable customer for some 10 or so years now, in several different properties.)<br>
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v) Their legal page recommends calling 0845 840 7777 if you have questions.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"></div></div></blockquote><div><br>That would cost me money and a lot of time, and I don't care that much. (As I said, customer for 10 years now... really hate talking to their customer support people!!)<br>
<br>If anyone else does though, can they postback here so we all know. :)<br><br>Ian<br><br></div></div><br></div>