On Dec 7, 2007 2:09 PM, R. G. Newbury <<a href="mailto:newbury@mandamus.org">newbury@mandamus.org</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">David George wrote:<br>> On 12/06/2007 11:11 PM, Mitch Gore wrote:<br>>> On Dec 6, 2007 9:44 PM, Christopher X. Candreva <<a href="mailto:chris@westnet.com">chris@westnet.com
</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:chris@westnet.com">chris@westnet.com</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Mitch Gore wrote:<br>>><br>>> > It has since been resolved but with the resolution I don't see
<br>>> how i can<br>>> > install F8 on my machine that only has sata drives. I currently<br>>> have FC6<br>>> > installed on my backend and wanted to upgrade to F8 as FC6 is EOL.
<br>>><br>>> Since you are doing an upgrade, you can upgrade via yum on the running<br>>> system:<br>>><br>>> <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq" target="_blank">
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq</a><br>>><br>>> I've done this a few times, including 7->8 but not specificly 6->8.<br>>><br>>> This will upgrade directly to the current versions from updates so
<br>>> you can<br>>> skip the buggy package.<br>>><br>>><br>>> Im just afraid that its going to cause problems then i am going to be<br>>> stuck rebuilding everything with F7 clean install. If thats the case
<br>>> i would rather just leave the server alone and wait for F9. If i do<br>>> F7 im going to be in the same situation in 6 months.<br>>><br>>> Does Fedora ever update the ISO's for a version or do they just leave
<br>>> it alone? Seems kind of dumb that they would just leave it alone when<br>>> some people cant even install the OS if they moved from Windows.<br>> Fedora Unity ( <a href="http://fedoraunity.org" target="_blank">
http://fedoraunity.org</a> ) releases respins. I haven't<br>> used their F8 respins, but I have used earlier ones.<br>><br>> I have also gone the yum upgrade method. Not specifically the one<br>> above, but I looked at the link and it is similar to the one I used.
<br>> No-one recommends skipping a version, but you can try it if you are<br>> brave. Just make sure you have backups, including a mysql dump so you<br>> can restore the database. If you do end up going to F7 (you can upgrade
<br>> by installing the F7 CD and selecting upgrade), you should be able to<br>> use the yum upgrade method to go to 8.<br>><br><br></div></div>I would strongly suggest that you use the 'nuke it and start fresh'
<br>route. I presently have 4 running machines (down from 5) and all of them<br>have been upgraded/re-installed from time to time. EVERY time I tried to<br>do a major step upgrade, I had problems. It takes only a little more
<br>time to do a complete install.<br><br>There are actually few files which you *need* to keep, mostly 'your own'<br>stuff, likely in /usr/local/sbin and /usr/local/bin, plus your /home<br>folders. I just copy those to somewhere along with all of /etc although
<br>you need only about a half dozen files from there, mainly to avoid<br>having to re-enter things (hosts, modprobe.conf, any changes to bashrc,<br>ld.so.conf, the extra init.d scripts we know and need (mythbackend,<br>lirc) etc. etc.
<br><br>It's also a good opportunity to re-arrange the hardware, buy another<br>(bigger!) hard drive for video storage, move the OS to its own drive, etc.<br><br>The kernel has become much more forgiving, especially as many things
<br>which were a complete pain in 2005 are now built into the kernel (Anyone<br>remember the "fun" we had with duplicate instances of tveeprom.ko).<br><br>But any driver which is kernel specific is a candidate for problems on
<br>an upgrade. Very often an install will have a kernel specific module<br>available.<br><br>At the least, you need to approach an upgrade as if you *were* going to<br>do a 'nuke it' install. That way you *will* have the backups.
<br><br>Of course, YMMV<br><br>Geoff<br><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">_______________________________________________<br>mythtv-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a>
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<br><br>thanks,<br>Mitchell<br>