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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good call on the video card. Like I said, I've not
built a PC before and I didn't understand the whole north/south bridge thing.
I've since done a little more homework...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ does support the
Cool-n-Quiet technology. But a later post did suggest a less powerful processor.
But I was thinking that I might need the extra power to support the software
RAID 5. I was thinking of using some of that disk space as backup for the other
PCs in the house - including digital pictures that we don't want to loose. I
picked the memory that I did to support this CPUs dual channel
processing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I also wanted 3 PCI slots for capture card
expansion. Viewing habits in the house means recording multiple programs at the
same time. I have yet to see an HD capture card with dual tuners like the
Hauppauge PVR 500.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The case got picked because it supports everything
that the ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe does. The PSU got picked for similar
reasons.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The missing DVD burner was an oversight. But my
understanding is that these are pretty much a commodity item and that I can pick
one up for < $40.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Chuck Rudolph<BR>Email: <A
href="mailto:rudolph4404@comcast.net">rudolph4404@comcast.net</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mitchell.gore@gmail.com href="mailto:mitchell.gore@gmail.com">Mitch
Gore</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mythtv-users@mythtv.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:29
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [mythtv-users] My first
MythTv box,first linux box and first build</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 9/12/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Chuck
Rudolph</B> <<A
href="mailto:rudolph4404@comcast.net">rudolph4404@comcast.net</A>>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm tired of VHS tapes
and multiple VCRs so I've decided to build a MythTV box.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>This will be my first
Linux machine and my first build.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm looking for
recommendations to the following. Over built? Under built? Too
noisy?</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>I wanted some room for
expansion - more disk and capture cards.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'd also like it quite.
It'll be in the entertainment cabinet with the TV. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>The TV is not digital
and wont be for a few years yet.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have 3 different
inputs: </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<UL><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>analog cable</FONT>
<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>cable converter box for scrambled channels -
Motorola DCT2224/1662/ACDEG</FONT>
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<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>It has a 9 pin Female D connector labeled
data</FONT>
<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>It has what looks like a phono plug labeled
IR</FONT></LI></UL>
<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>and the afore mentioned VCR - I'd like to get
rid of some of those tapes...</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's my current <A
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href="http://newegg.com" target=_blank>http://newegg.com</A> shopping
list... </FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<TD><STRONG><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811163055"
target=_blank>SILVERSTONE SST-LC17-B Black Aluminum front panel, 0.8
mm SECC body ATX Media Center / HTPC Desktop Computer Case - Retail
</A></STRONG><BR><STRONG>Model #:</STRONG> SST-LC17-B<BR><STRONG>Item
#:</STRONG>
N82E16811163055</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR><BR>I would suggest going with a mATX case. especially if you
are puting it in your living room. mATX cases are the size of stereo
recievers so the 'blend' better than a full ATX case. <BR></DIV><BR>
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<TD><STRONG>$139.99</STRONG> </TD>
<TD><SPAN>-$20.00 Instant </SPAN></TD>
<TD align=right><STRONG>$119.99</STRONG></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<TD><STRONG><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131013"
target=_blank>ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX
AMD Motherboard - Retail </A></STRONG><BR><STRONG>Model #:</STRONG>
M2N-SLI Deluxe<BR><STRONG>Item #:</STRONG>
N82E16813131013<BR><STRONG>$139.99</STRONG> </TD>
<TD><SPAN> </SPAN></TD>
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<DIV><BR>Again...go to mATX. I would suggest the <A
href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131014">Asus
M2NPV-VM</A> it a great board. It has onboard nvidia 6150 graphics
card. Comes with a TV bracket so output too S-video, composite, or
Component HDTV (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i). all of that is configureable
in linux. Plus its only $89.99 </DIV>
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<TD><STRONG><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16815116628"
target=_blank>Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 500 MCE White box PCI Interface
Personal Video Recorder - Retail </A></STRONG><BR><STRONG>Model
#:</STRONG> 1081<BR><STRONG>Item #:</STRONG> N82E16815116628<BR></TD>
<TD><STRONG>$139.99</STRONG> </TD>
<TD><SPAN> </SPAN></TD>
<TD align=right><STRONG>$139.99</STRONG></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I picked up a Hauppauge WinTV GO-Plus cheap
from my local CompUSA when it was going out of business. Don't know if the
card will work with Linux or not yet, but I figured I could make use of the
IR Blaster and remote that came with it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'd like to add another PVR 500 in the not too
distant future.</FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR><BR>good choice <BR></DIV><BR>
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<TD><STRONG><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817189014"
target=_blank>XCLIO STABLEPOWER 500W ATX 500W Power Supply - Retail
</A></STRONG><BR><STRONG>Model #:</STRONG> STABLEPOWER
500W<BR><STRONG>Item #:</STRONG> N82E16817189014<BR></TD>
<TD><STRONG>$69.99</STRONG> </TD>
<TD><SPAN> </SPAN></TD>
<TD align=right><STRONG>$69.99</STRONG> - Tried a couple of the online
PSU calculators which told me I need something at least
440W.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>may be overkill but with all your HDD wont hurt. <BR></DIV><BR>
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<TD><STRONG><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103771"
target=_blank>AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Windsor 2.8GHz Socket AM2
Processor Model ADA5600CZBOX - Retail </A></STRONG><BR><STRONG>Model
#:</STRONG> ADA5600CZBOX<BR><STRONG>Item #:</STRONG>
N82E16819103771<BR><STRONG>$149.50</STRONG> </TD>
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<DIV><BR>good choice. this will give you some great HDTV when you
deside to upgrade. Does this support AMD Cool-n-quiet? Thats
a nice feature may want to look into it. <BR></DIV><BR>
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<TD><STRONG><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820134117"
target=_blank>Kingston ValueRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2
800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5K2/2G -
OEM </A></STRONG><BR><STRONG>Model #:</STRONG>
KVR800D2N5K2/2G<BR><STRONG>Item #:</STRONG>
N82E16820134117<BR><STRONG>$119.99</STRONG></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR><BR>overkill in IMHO. I run 512mb RAM in my FE/BE. I have
1 pvr, 2 OTA (HDHomeRun), and firewire HD have never had an issue while all
are recording and I am playing HD. Thats with a P4 3.4ghz too. (with
XvMC)<BR></DIV><BR>
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<TD><STRONG><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148136"
target=_blank>Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM
SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM </A></STRONG><BR><STRONG>Model
#:</STRONG> ST3500630AS<BR><STRONG>Item #:</STRONG>
N82E16822148136<BR><STRONG>$119.99</STRONG> </TD>
<TD><SPAN> <STRONG>x3 </STRONG></SPAN></TD>
<TD align=right><STRONG>$359.97 - </STRONG>Thinking of software raid 5
with LVM.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV><BR> wow, thats alot of storage. I would stay away from
LVM. also why do raid 5? You going to loose alot of storage.
is you TV that important to you? I would mount each drive on a differant
point then add them in storage groups. This way if one dies you will
only loose that disks recording and the rest of the system will be fine.
<BR><BR>One thing maybe you already have it but what about a DVD burner?
Are you going to want to rip your DVD collection to your Myth box? Or
archive you recording to native Myth backups or regular DVD's?
<BR><BR><BR>overall good chioces. This advice comes from lesenser
learned from buying the wrong hardware and suffering or buying the right
hardware and then having to rebuy stuff to upgrade to my needs. This
system will really do alot and has lots of room for expansion. For only
doing SD now its going to be way overkill. When you move to HD it will
still be overkill but it will be nice to get the fast comm flaggin and
transcoding. <BR><BR>let me know how it turns out for
you<BR><BR>Mitchell<BR></DIV></DIV>
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