<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Aug 8, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Robert Current wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On 8/8/07, Chris Petersen <<a href="mailto:lists@forevermore.net">lists@forevermore.net</a>> wrote:</div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Zap2it Labs went away because TMS decided that it was too much effort to</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">police it for fraud.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Just about everyone we've worked with at TMS and</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Labs said that they felt bad about the free service going away.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> </blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">What fraud?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Was the data used for something other than MythTV PVR's</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">like originally intended?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Was someone trying to re-sell the data?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">This is the first I heard of "fraud" talking about listing data.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>I</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">heard "abuse" before, and assumed that meant people were pulling data</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">hourly on a cron job or something, taxing the server to hard... <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>But</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">what was the fraud?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>And how is the schedulesdirect.org project going</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to stop this fraud issue?</div></blockquote><br></div><div>Check the archives and the original thousand or so messages talking about why TMS decided to stop the free direct to consumer feeds. Or you can just read the open letter on the labs.zap2it.com site.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>"<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana; ">In October of 2004 we posted here an open letter saying the future of Zap2it Labs was at risk because of certain growing misuses of the Zap2it Labs data. Unfortunately this misuse has continued and grown. These misuses, combined with other business factors have led to the decision to discontinue Zap2it Labs effective September 1, 2007."</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">While they don't use the term "fraud", they do say it's due to "misuse" which I can only imagine means violating their terms of service which in essence is a sort of fraudulent behavior.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div> </body></html>