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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>
-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:mythtv-users-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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bounces@mythtv.org] On Behalf Of brian<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2007 5:35 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Discussion about mythtv</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Zap2It fiasco - what can we as users do?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> We need to make mythtv independent of any third party commercial source
and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> I suggest the devs to come out of the dark and talk so we can coordinate a<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>
> single effort, otherwise we are going to have a mess.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>They (the devs) seem to have managed the
entire MythTV project, thus far,<o:p></o:p></span></i></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-style:italic'>> without need of your (or any user's) stewardship.<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Ahh
actually Brian that’s where you are wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>When
you consider the massive 'ecosystem' of users/partners and developers that the
Asterisk open source community has built up around itself MythTV is actually
doing pretty poorly (considering they both started off around the same time).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>But
to be honest it's tracking exactly where 'Dev' attitudes like yours suggest it
should be - having a party in your arse with room for more.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The
EPG issue is something that 'should' be left alone for the devs to work out and
it should/will take time to resolve, but 'petty ownership' issues like you just
demonstrated shows how far 'off' a really thriving MythTV community could be
run.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dean
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