>On 05/09/2007 01:06 PM, John P Poet wrote:<br>> On 5/9/07, Joe Borne <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:joe.borne@gmail.com">joe.borne@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:41 -0400, Joe Borne wrote:
<br>>>> I have found a solution to the problem of 5C encrypted channels.<br>>>><br>>>> This device here -> PYRO A /V<br>>>><br>>>> Can convert Component Video (The Y Pb Pr) stuff straight to DV
<br>>>> (firewire/ieee1394). It can also pass through the audio (in stereo at<br>>>> least).<br>>> Sorry. The specifications show that it only does standard definition,<br>>> so it's no better than a PVR-150.
<br>>><br>>> You're right, I just noticed that too. Darn it. On the right track though.<br>>><br>><br>> It actually *might* be better than a PVR-150. It comes down to how<br>> well it converts the analog video/audio to digital. Since it is an
<br>> external device, it would not have to fight off electrical<br>> interference, like the PVR-150 does. No tuner, so it is only doing<br>> one job. Component inputs should be much higher quality than s-video,
<br>> so it should have a cleaner source, which should result in a cleaner<br>> result.<br>><br>> So, it is not going to be HD, but it still might be much better than<br>> using a PVR-150 to capture s-video.
<br>><br><br>>Not to mention that the video never gets corrupted--I mean quality isn't<br>>degraded--by the NTSC format. NTSC is most of the reason that standard<br>>def quality is so lacking--after all it's more than 50-year old
<br>>technology. If the video never becomes NTSC, it could theoretically be<br>>as good as DVD quality (as played through a non-NTSC connection--i.e.<br>>component or VGA or DVI or HDMI). And, anyone with an HDTV who has
<br>>played a (good quality) DVD through a non-NTSC connection knows how that<br>>compares to NTSC. IMHO, NTSC = ., DVD = O, and HDTV = 0 (the difference<br>>between NTSC and DVD quality is huge compared to the difference between
<br>>DVD and HDTV quality).<br><br>>And, depending on the device, it may allow for proper aspect-ratio<br>>switching. If so, it may allow capture of widescreen content at 720x480<br>>with no black bars--meaning all 480 horizontal lines contain picture
<br>>content, so none of the resolution is wasted.<br><br>> Does Myth know how to play video in "DV Video" format?<br><br>>It could always be transcoded.<br><br>>Mike<br><br>Well, at the very least it appears we are on the right track to finding a path between the STB and MythTV that has hope for viewing HDTV 5C encrypted content in a time-shifted format.
<br><br>It seems we only lack one or two things:<br><br>1. A device like the PYRO A/V that converts "Y Pb Pr" or DVI-D to DV or MPEG2 carried via ieee1394/firewire and retains the 1080i/p resolution.<br><br>and/or
<br><br>2. A "connector" to allow MythTV to accept a raw DV stream.<br> <br><br>Does anyone on the list who has A/V hardware expertise know of a device to fill role #1?<br><br>Does anyone on the list who is a developer know of a package or think they can create one that can fill role #2? (dvgrab -
<a href="http://www.schirmacher.de/arne/dvgrab/">http://www.schirmacher.de/arne/dvgrab/</a> seems to be on the right track, kino is already using it.)<br><br>I'm no developer, but I can write OK bash scripts and I admin/hack a redhat based distro pretty well. I've written my own MythTV themes also. I'm a pretty accomplished Project Manager, so I'd be happy to help coordinate an effort to make this all work.
<br><br>I see additional benefits to this in that it would enable folks with DV based camcorders to transfer content directly to a MythTV box and transcode it.<br>