On 1/9/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Steven Adeff</b> <<a href="mailto:adeffs.mythtv@gmail.com">adeffs.mythtv@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On 1/9/07, Jerry Rubinow <<a href="mailto:jerrymr@gmail.com">jerrymr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> On 1/8/07, Jerry Rubinow <<a href="mailto:jerrymr@gmail.com">jerrymr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > On 1/8/07, Yeechang Lee <
<a href="mailto:ylee@pobox.com">ylee@pobox.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > > Jerry Rubinow <<a href="mailto:jerrymr@gmail.com">jerrymr@gmail.com</a>> says:<br>> > > > In any case, the guy I talked to in technical support at Verizon
<br>> agreed with<br>> > > > me that none of those channels should be encrypted (after he put me on<br>> hold<br>> > > > for a few minutes, presumably talking with a supervisor) and said<br>> they're
<br>> > > > going to look into fixing the problem and would give me a call back.<br>> > ><br>> > > Good luck in getting unencrypted access to the OTA HD channels.<br>> ><br>> ><br>
> > Of the approx. 15 OTA HD channels in my program guide, 5 are encrypted and<br>> the rest are not. I guess we'll see how lucky I am when they call me back<br>> :)<br>><br>> I still haven't heard back from Verizon, so I'll be giving them another call
<br>> today. However, yesterday I hooked up my AverTV HD card straight to the<br>> Verizon coax (FYI, Verizon FIOS TV in the Philly area is IRC QAM256), and<br>> I'm able to get all the locals, both SD and HD, in the clear. So the DRM
<br>> bits are something the set top box is enforcing ( i.e. not passing through),<br>> and the signal isn't actually encrypted.<br>><br>> -Jerry<br><br>FIOS comes in over coax? I thought it was IPTV? so confused...
</blockquote><div><br>The way it works for Verizon in my area is that the fiber comes into the house and connects to an ONT (optical network terminal). This has one output that connects to the copper house POTS wiring (i.e
. not VOIP). It has another cat5 output which is the internet. And it has a coax output. The ONT presumably encodes the tv signals coming in digitally on the fiber onto the coax. Channels under 50 are put on the coax in analog, so you can get them on a tv without a set top box. 50 and over is digital. It's my understanding (although I don't have this myself) that if you have a DVR set top box, it can stream, via IPTV, to other set top boxes in your house. So although the signal isn't initially distributed via IP, the set top boxes can communicate amongst themselves that way.
<br><br>-Jerry<br></div><br></div><br>